Skinny, Vertical Cab Stack Setups?

[strictlybass_ic]

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• strictlybass_ic
• Apr 18, 2015

2x Avatar B210 Special
Not a bad little rig and with a cab in each hand and gig bag on my back it's a one trip load in.

 

[BluesWalker]

Hi all,

I'm 6'3" and hate having cabs at my knees blowing past me and struggling to not turn up (and get yelled at by the soundman) and hear myself. I like TC's approach with the RS210 and RS212 cabs that can be stacked tall and am thinking about going that route. I like the idea of a small footprint and the tall cab setup.

Are there any other makers (other then TC) that I should also look at? BTW, I'm not a big in-ear monitor lover, so don't tell me to go there

Thanks!

Vertical stacks is old news. Google and read about the Grateful Dead's Wall of Sound.

 

[NKBassman]

Hey JimmyM, do you have a photo of this same rig but with the head on the top? I'm just curious as to how it looks...love the Ampeg gear.

I guess you could try that if you hated your amp and don't mind it toppling 4' to the ground...

You're talking about putting a 100+ lbs head on top of two ~30 lbs cabs. Seriously top heavy.

Edit: I didn't mean for that to sound so rude. I just think it would be a very bad idea.

 

[lavmonga]

I stack my 2x10 and 1x15 Boogie cabs the long way vertically. Sounds just as good. Takes up slightly less space too.

 

[imdkoz]

Love my TC RS212 stack. I always hated having a 4x10 blasting the back of my legs.

 

[JimmyM]

Hey JimmyM, do you have a photo of this same rig but with the head on the top? I'm just curious as to how it looks...love the Ampeg gear.

I guess you could try that if you hated your amp and don't mind it toppling 4' to the ground...

You're talking about putting a 100+ lbs head on top of two ~30 lbs cabs. Seriously top heavy.

Edit: I didn't mean for that to sound so rude. I just think it would be a very bad idea.

Buffy felt the same way you do, NK, even though the V4B is only 41 lbs...

 

[Jamvan]

I've been playing through our BLs 2x10 combo since I joined my band 4 months ago but tonight I'm bringing my TC BH500 and BC212x2 for the first time and I'm excited at the thought of 1) being able to hear myself and 2) getting rid of the annoying farting sound the 2x10 was providing.

 

[NKBassman]

Buffy felt the same way you do, NK, even though the V4B is only 41 lbs...

Oh man! 41 lbs?!?!
I did not need to hear that. My Verellen Meatsmoke is like 3x that.

Also, that picture makes me cringe, especially with the little kitty underneath.

 

[gregmari]

I started stacking a pair of svt210he's last year after getting the idea from this forum. I haven't used my 4x10 at gigs much since.

 

[troy mcclure]

I was thinking about building a road case for my Avatar 2x10 Neo to get it at ear level. I don;t want to add the weight to my load in though. I have tried a stand but I could no longer put the head on top and I hate bending down at a gig... I am a bit rotund. I try and keep my load in as simple as possible as I also carry lights and the PA.

 

[ThisBass]

Yes it is, and I would do that with mine if I didn't care what it sounded like where I stand. But I do, so I won't.

That issue doesn't exist with my setup, though. Sounds pretty much the same no matter where I stand on axis.

And just to annoy you for calling it "anorexic":

Sorry, clearly my words arn't chosen wisely.
I corrected my posts above and replaced related points with the term "skinny" like used in the thread title.

It's a general rule of thumb in science that a work out of an advantage (mostly) comes along with another disadvantage. So it's always neccessary to take in account all of distinct variables IF an aimed advantage really meets the goal.
IME the "issues" take effect in the near-field of around one or two yards distance to the stack.
Try to imagine what would happen to the sound if there was only one 210 cab standing at the floor. In the near-field to the cab the sound varies obviously with distance to the cab. This effect of the bottom cab remains steady never the less if a second cab is stacked or not. Of course the effect is now "overwhelmed" by the cab at the top but the top cab can't eliminate the effects that are caused by the bottom cab. The more the bass player is apart from the stack the more these effects are dimished and the more vertically stacking can display it's advantage.

Of course vertical (thin tower) stacking is an approved practice but, I claim it depends on marginal conditions (and personal needs) if it is the best way to go.

 

[SeattleSunn]

Buffy felt the same way you do, NK, even though the V4B is only 41 lbs...

If you rotate the V4B on its side and put it on the bottom you will definitely get those speakers in the air.

 

[KaseOfBass]

I simply like the vertical stack because it puts a driver closer to my ears so I can hear mo' betta. I'm not so much concerned with any science or that it sounds different from this angle or that. My cabs are just monitors for me, FOH can take care of the rest.

 

[JimmyM]

Oh man! 41 lbs?!?!
I did not need to hear that. My Verellen Meatsmoke is like 3x that.

Also, that picture makes me cringe, especially with the little kitty underneath.

You'll be happy to know that both the amp and Buffy survived.

 

[hsp-sandiego]

And a 2x112 setup.
with the vertical stack, you really hear your playing, not just all bottom - it works

 

[hsp-sandiego]

The RS210 is a GREAT 2x10 cab. Plus when they're stacked, you can hang a bass on them

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that is super modular. nice!

 

[Chef]

Yeah, I admittedly am behind with doing this. I've mainly been doing the 3x10, 4x10 or 6x10 thing. Now I want to go thinner and taller. So any make and model suggestions? I love 10's so I'm thinking 2 - 2x10 cabs. I like the idea of the coax in the TC cabs (as some horns can sound brittle and thin to my ears).

Any two same/same cabs you like is a good start.
I have and use:
two GK Neo 112's
two Baer ML112's
Low Down Sound built fEARFul 12/6/1 and 12 sub

 

[JimmyM]

It's a general rule of thumb in science that a work out of an advantage (mostly) comes along with another disadvantage. So it's always neccessary to take in account all of distinct variables IF an aimed advantage really meets the goal.
IME the "issues" take effect in the near-field of around one or two yards distance to the stack.
Try to imagine what would happen to the sound if there was only one 210 cab standing at the floor. In the near-field to the cab the sound varies obviously with distance to the cab. This effect of the bottom cab remains steady never the less if a second cab is stacked or not. Of course the effect is now "overwhelmed" by the cab at the top but the top cab can't eliminate the effects that are caused by the bottom cab. The more the bass player is apart from the stack the more these effects are dimished and the more vertically stacking can display it's advantage.

Of course vertical (thin tower) stacking is an approved practice but, I claim it depends on marginal conditions (and personal needs) if it is the best way to go.

I'm always at least a yard away from it, usually more, so it's never an issue.

 

[tedious1]

+1 on the Ampeg SVT-210AV.

All 2x10s can be stacked vertical. What you need to look out for is that the cab is wide enough for your amp to sit stable on it. The TC's are on the small side and a little rounded on the corners so a micro will fit nice, but a regular size amp in a rack can be unstable.

No big deal, I picked up and amp stand and that's where I put my rack. The angle helps get at the controls, and it discourages the drummer and singer from using my rack as a drink table...

 

[ThisBass]

I'm always at least a yard away from it, usually more, so it's never an issue.

Often enough I played very lots of gigs in bars etc. where I was already happy to have one yard at most. Often enough no way to get horizontally off axis because of the drum kit (mostly) at the left side and edge of stage (or a side wall) at the right side of the cab.