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Skinny, Vertical Cab Stack Setups?
- Thread starter Quadzilla
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Question.
I got a head 500w4ohm/300w8ohm. Speaker is a TC 210'' /8 Ohm.
I want to add one more.
Should I go for the TC RS112, or is it better with one more 210.
The RS112 alone would be good for smaller rooms. But does it work ok together with 210.
I got a head 500w4ohm/300w8ohm. Speaker is a TC 210'' /8 Ohm.
I want to add one more.
Should I go for the TC RS112, or is it better with one more 210.
The RS112 alone would be good for smaller rooms. But does it work ok together with 210.
I suppose I will be the somewhat odd cat out here; but, I don't find the vertical stack to be the big thing that apparently most others do.
When I gig my 212 + 112 stack, I do stack them. Yes, it sounds great:
However, when I acquired a 2nd AE212, I had several exchanges with other TB'ers (wish I could remember without searching which of you provided the input); and after a lot of experimentation with various arrangements arrived at the following setup as optimal for the sound I like:
I spent a lot of time listening carefully to several configurations including vertical stacking, but ultimately find this shallow V a lot more pleasing; and it is far more stable on some of the nasty stages I get to gig. LOL.
The dispersion thing is interesting; but to me, in terms of the slot in the mix the bass provides, it's a bit subtle. The frequencies that comb the most perceptively tend to be the higher frequencies, and you definitely can hear the effect walking around a big room on a long cord when the cabs are simply side by side. To me, if this causes the bass to "not be heard," then there are other problems with the bass tone shaping. I do agree that the stack or the shallow V keep the sound field projecting from the cabs more uniform.
Anyhow, if space allows, I go shallow V. If stage space is tight, then I stack. I'm only 6'0"; so just a shortie. My $0.019.
When I gig my 212 + 112 stack, I do stack them. Yes, it sounds great:
However, when I acquired a 2nd AE212, I had several exchanges with other TB'ers (wish I could remember without searching which of you provided the input); and after a lot of experimentation with various arrangements arrived at the following setup as optimal for the sound I like:
I spent a lot of time listening carefully to several configurations including vertical stacking, but ultimately find this shallow V a lot more pleasing; and it is far more stable on some of the nasty stages I get to gig. LOL.
The dispersion thing is interesting; but to me, in terms of the slot in the mix the bass provides, it's a bit subtle. The frequencies that comb the most perceptively tend to be the higher frequencies, and you definitely can hear the effect walking around a big room on a long cord when the cabs are simply side by side. To me, if this causes the bass to "not be heard," then there are other problems with the bass tone shaping. I do agree that the stack or the shallow V keep the sound field projecting from the cabs more uniform.
Anyhow, if space allows, I go shallow V. If stage space is tight, then I stack. I'm only 6'0"; so just a shortie. My $0.019.
Where are the stacked 1x12's ?
Does any company make a deep 2x12 ? It'd be cool to stack two of those as long as it's not more than 6 feet tall for the 4x12. I'd put a micro on top or just my 4 space rack on an angled amp stand.
Does any company make a deep 2x12 ? It'd be cool to stack two of those as long as it's not more than 6 feet tall for the 4x12. I'd put a micro on top or just my 4 space rack on an angled amp stand.
I love the look of the 210HE's stacked. I assume you modified the grills to be vintage silver?
I have the 210av's and love them but bet this would give just that extra bottom you miss.
Yeah the stacked 210HE's is a great sounding rig that you don't see too often. I made new grill frames and covered them with the ampeg 60's cloth. Here's a thread I made on it: Ampeg Grill Cloth
Plenty of low end but still has punchy mids.
Don't know if they were mentioned, but my MAS109 and MAS112 are very narrow and like vertical stacking. The 109 is 13 1/2 wide by 28 and the 112 is 15 1/2 by 32 tall. Neither suffer from any of the dispersion or phase problems mentioned earlier. The 109 is about the volume of a 310 cab and the 112 is more like a 212 in volume.
