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Skinny, Vertical Cab Stack Setups?

Quadzilla

Quadzilla

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Hi all,

I'm 6'3" and hate having cabs at my knees blowing past me and struggling to not turn up (and get yelled at by the soundman) and hear myself. I like TC's approach with the RS210 and RS212 cabs that can be stacked tall and am thinking about going that route. I like the idea of a small footprint and the tall cab setup.

Are there any other makers (other then TC) that I should also look at? BTW, I'm not a big in-ear monitor lover, so don't tell me to go there :-)

Thanks!
 
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Bass_Pounder said:
Your way behind the curve.

Guys here have been doing the vertical stack for a while now (admittedly, it's with two 2X10's, not mixed driver sizes).

Provides better dispersion, so not only do YOU hear yourself better, so does the audience.
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Yeah, I admittedly am behind with doing this. I've mainly been doing the 3x10, 4x10 or 6x10 thing. Now I want to go thinner and taller. So any make and model suggestions? I love 10's so I'm thinking 2 - 2x10 cabs. I like the idea of the coax in the TC cabs (as some horns can sound brittle and thin to my ears).
 
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I've been using two Ampeg SVT210AV cabs for just shy of two years now with great success. Would get 'em even a little taller by stacking them on the V-4B. As of late though, I bought and have been using a Berg CN212. Like you, I prefer to have the sound closer to my ears so I've been putting the Berg cab on a cheapo cab stand that I bought at GC and that's been working great. May not be what people like aesthetically though. I used to stack two Aguilar SL112 cabs on their side to get them a little closer to my ears.
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I measure 6.1" and hate the issues of those skinny towers. The sound changes strongly with different (on axis) distance to the stack. I'd lift the 2x210 some feet from the floor and give them some crossing angle to improve horizontal dispersion. That's a very approved practice even on PA line array systems.

Those 2x210 skinny towers make sense if ears are in a nearly horizontal position to the spealers. In this case horizontal dispersion indeed is improved. But I'm not sitting in an arm chair on stage (may be in 20 years when I'm old enough).

So it all depends.

By the way it costs no $cent to give both options a change. Try to figure out what kind of "stacking" meets best your personal needs. Check dispersion at different on axis distance and diferent horizontal angle to the "stack" and decide for yourself what's best.
 
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KaseOfBass said:
I've been using two Ampeg SVT210AV cabs for just shy of two years now with great success. Would get 'em even a little taller by stacking them on the V-4B. As of late though, I bought and have been using a Berg CN212. Like you, I prefer to have the sound closer to my ears so I've been putting the Berg cab on a cheapo cab stand that I bought at GC and that's been working great. May not be what people like aesthetically though. I used to stack two Aguilar SL112 cabs on their side to get them a little closer to my ears.View attachment 669611View attachment 669628
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The issue which derives from different distance to the cab will decrease with longer getting distance to the stack.
So it depends if a player is (mostly) in a narrow position to the stack because a stage is small OR the player is on a big stage where the cab is some yards apart of him.

It all depends.
 
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iualum said:
Doesn't have to be a 2 x 210. A 2 x 115 or 2 x 112 can work equally well. Use a stand if you need to.
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Yes on both counts.

My Mesa Walkabout Scout stack (1-15 combo on top with cab on botttom) is HUGE sounding.

And I also run an Ashdown LB30 with an EA 2-10. That rig usually sits on a stand that puts the higher 10 about shoulder blade height.

Both systems work very well.
 
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Frontporch said:
As stated by others I have played vertical stacked 2x10's for a few years now. I will never go back to side by side. The drummers will love you also because they can hear you.
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I ain't the drummer but indeed that's a good choice for drummers ears.
Did anybody of you ever listened to a PA line array system where midrange and treble drivers are crossed?
 
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gjbassist said:
GK cabs work great for vertical stacking, especially the ones with the interlocking plastic corners! I have used a two neo 112 stack in the past and currently use a first generation MB210 combo stacked on a vertical 115.
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Here's my older SBX210+ stack with a LMII head that I used up until a year ago:

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Now I use 2 GK 212MBE cabs stacked with a GK MB800 head.

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