Small cab preference

[J-Bass RMR]

Respectfully disagree as the SL 112 is only a 250 watt cab. If paired with an SL212 it may become overwhelmed.

Overwhelmed? No.
The amp "sees" 3 of the same driver, each getting an equal amount of power.

And 1x12 generally speaking isn't as capable as a 2x10.

Completely depends on which cabs you're talking about.

I'll take my SL112 over my Ampeg 210, Hartke HD210 (ended up with that one in a trade). or another "boutique" 210 I've owned.
Much fuller sounding to me.

IMO, the SL212 is pretty conservatively rated.

 

[J-Bass RMR]

Which would you choose and why?

I've thought about the the Aggie 115.
Why? "it's not your father's" 15 anymore.....

Why not? I rarely have an application where I'd feel the need to stack a 212 on a 115.
and if I did, I already have SL112s and the SL212...

But the main reason - I just decided I don't like a lone, single driver cabinet.
I can't hear a cab on the floor, and by the time you raise it on a stand or road case, you might as well just bring a 2nd cab or a 2x cab.
(and I don't need 2x15s -(or do I??) - so there's that "rabbit hole"...

 

[lomo]

Respectfully disagree as the SL 112 is only a 250 watt cab. If paired with an SL212 it may become overwhelmed. And 1x12 generally speaking isn't as capable as a 2x10.
The OP is using a 700 watt head @4 or 2.67 Ohms

I hear your point. I don't know if the 212 is 8 or 4 Ohms. If it's 4, the match with an 8 Ohm 112 would be excellent. Even if the 212 is 8 Ohms, as long as the 112 is on top and the player is listening and not using extreme eq, it won't be a problem. I have judiciously played small cabs with big power for years....currently use an 800 watt Quilter head with a Barefaced 110 for practice much of the time without issue.

 

[LadyLoveStingRay5]

If you're looking for something smaller when less than 212 will do, my next question is whether 212 has ever not been loud enough for you. If the answer is no, I'd go with a matching 8 Ohm 12.....smaller/lighter and cheaper than a 210 and still fine for practice or grab 'n' go. You could still pair them with your 700 watt head. Maybe audition the SL 210 and 112 if possible? I wouldn't fall into the "10s sound like this and 12s sound like this" trap. You really have to think about specific cabs 'cause there are 12s and 15s that can sound tighter than some 10-loaded cabs.

Yeah, you can't get another SL212 as they are 4 ohm cabs. AG700 will go down to 2.67 ohms, not 2 ohms. The SL 210 probability makes the most sense. Or the SL 115. You must play at high dbs as the 2x12" by itself is pretty substantial.

Respectfully disagree as the SL 112 is only a 250 watt cab. If paired with an SL212 it may become overwhelmed. And 1x12 generally speaking isn't as capable as a 2x10.
The OP is using a 700 watt head @4 or 2.67ohms.

I hear your point. I don't know if the 212 is 8 or 4 Ohms. If it's 4, the match with an 8 Ohm 112 would be excellent. Even if the 212 is 8 Ohms, as long as the 112 is on top and the player is listening and not using extreme eq, it won't be a problem. I have judiciously played small cabs with big power for years....currently use an 800 watt Quilter head with a Barefaced 110 for practice much of the time without issue.

My Aguilar SL212 is a Special Edition . It is 8 ohms . My Head is AG700. The matching cabs I’ve found are used in the same Special Edition color. They are all 8ohms.

The 212 is plenty loud . My reason for adding the smaller cab was for when I don’t want the larger size / more portable and when I don’t need the power.

But if I needed it, I wanted something that would also pair well.

 

[lomo]

My Aguilar SL212 is a Special Edition . It is 8 ohms . My Head is AG700. The matching cabs I’ve found are used in the same Special Edition color. They are all 8ohms.

The 212 is plenty loud . My reason for adding the smaller cab was for when I don’t want the larger size / more portable and when I don’t need the power.

But if I needed it, I wanted something that would also pair well.

In this case I would definitely go with the 8 Ohm 112. It should sound just like your 212, only smaller, lighter and lower max volume potential. IMO, a 210 just isn't THAT much less of a hassle to schlep than a 212. A 112 will be significanly easier to carry, and is plenty for the "lesser volume" situations for most of us. If you ever want to play them as a stack, just put the 112 on top, closer to your ears, and don't crank your master or bass knob recklessly. You will likely find that having the taller stack is VERY satisfying in terms of hearing yourself even better, even when you don't "need" it.

 

[SJan3]

Overwhelmed? No.
The amp "sees" 3 of the same driver, each getting an equal amount of power.


Completely depends on which cabs you're talking about.

I'll take my SL112 over my Ampeg 210, Hartke HD210 (ended up with that one in a trade). or another "boutique" 210 I've owned.
Much fuller sounding to me.

IMO, the SL212 is pretty conservatively rated.

I believe I said "generally speaking".

 

[SJan3]

Overwhelmed? No.
The amp "sees" 3 of the same driver, each getting an equal amount of power.


Completely depends on which cabs you're talking about.

I'll take my SL112 over my Ampeg 210, Hartke HD210 (ended up with that one in a trade). or another "boutique" 210 I've owned.
Much fuller sounding to me.

IMO, the SL212 is pretty conservatively rated.

Her 2x12" cab is 8 ohms so the 1x12" would see more power per driver.

 

[burgerdj]

2x10 Or 1x 15 ??
Which would you choose and why?
I’m thinking Aguilar .
I’m looking for something also that will pair well with my 2x12 cab .

What is your 212 cab? Mixing drivers, let alone cab designs is a crapshoot.

 

[burgerdj]

I've tried several cabs and none have impressed me as much as Barefaced. They are small, light, and sound HUGE. I have two One10 cabs. One with a tweeter and one without. I can run them as a pair and it's PLENTY for any small gig where I don't have PA support. Larger gigs I go direct and don't use a cab at all.


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I really want to try a pair of those!

 

[J-Bass RMR]

Her 2x12" cab is 8 ohms so the 1x12" would see more power per driver.

Both are 8omz.

Missed /misinterpreted that; (both" as in the SL210 / SL115 in question...)

The 8 ohm SE is fairly uncommon (thus the SE I suppose)

 

[Bass Butcher]

2x10 would be my first choice, followed by a 15", with another 2x12 last. As much as I love the big guns if your 212 is supplying enough bottom for your needs the 2x10 is going to give you the most bang for your buck. If I had a 212 and wanted more bottom I'd go with a 15" or 18" with sufficient power handling and clean headroom but that's just me

Part of my leaning toward a 'bass bin' is that your 212 almost certainly already has a high frequency driver included.

 

[Bass Butcher]

115 that goes deep for me because you probably already have the punch you need with your 212 and the 115 would be a good complement.

Also, having a 212 and a 115 you can use separately gives you more options tone wise/better fit with various rooms. Versatility is a plus for me.

Nailed it

 

[Bass Butcher]

LadyLoveStingRay5 - with a 15 or 18 you want more rms than your 12's and ideally a speaker in the same efficiency (db's), range to avoid relative volume conflicts. Giving the larger driver a higher rms cushion (and a slightly higher efficiency), results in higher clean headroom in the speaker that is more likely to throw mud, to use bass player terms
People tend to go gaga over cabinet brands. While relevant in regards to sound quality and roadability it is important to know exactly what speakers are in the cabs in regards to rms and efficiency when mixing and matching cabinets for bass. The bass rig in my profile pic has a Cerwin Vega 18, two Beta 10A's, a 412 and two 212 cabs, all but one of the 12's 100 - 150w rms guitar speakers. One of the 212's I also used as a second bass bin beside a Peavey BW 115, speakers from a MusicMan HD 130 combo, plenty of horsepower and laughed at low frequency abuse, lol

 

[jthisdell]

In this case I would definitely go with the 8 Ohm 112. It should sound just like your 212, only smaller, lighter and lower max volume potential. IMO, a 210 just isn't THAT much less of a hassle to schlep than a 212. A 112 will be significanly easier to carry, and is plenty for the "lesser volume" situations for most of us. If you ever want to play them as a stack, just put the 112 on top, closer to your ears, and don't crank your master or bass knob recklessly. You will likely find that having the taller stack is VERY satisfying in terms of hearing yourself even better, even when you don't "need" it.

I have Bergantino 112 and 210 cabs, I find the 210 easier to carry, 5 pounds heavier but balanced and an easier form factor to carry

 

[Rip Van Dan]

2x10 Or 1x 15 ??
Which would you choose and why?
I’m thinking Aguilar .
I’m looking for something also that will pair well with my 2x12 cab .

I really prefer the 210 instead of the 115. That's partly because my 210 is really LOUD and handles 700-watts rms. When I need to be loud I'll run my WT500/800 amp bridged at 800-watts into it and turn the master up to 10:30. That's loud enough that I can't stand to be within about 4-feet of it because it hurts my ears to be that close. Most good 210's are all you need for small and medium venues and honestly that's why I bought my DNS-210 cab by DNA. I already had the DNS-410 but ran into the problem of small brewpubs in Washington (over 400 of them) making me use their little 112 combo when I tried to roll in my 410. So I figured, just get the 210 and use that for small and medium-sized venues. Then I found out it was so loud that I could play all my indoor venues with it small, medium, and large.

But any good 210 with handling power around 350 to 400-watts and decent sensitivity should easily handle small and medium venues. The 115's will also be able to do small and medium just fine, but you'll need to step up to 2x115 for large and outdoor venues. I like the sound of my 210's better than the 115's I've used over the years. My 210 is exceptionally clear, clean, and articulate as are all the DNA cabs and I think that has a lot to do with it.

Back in the early 70's I toured with a 215 rig that was crazy loud but was definitely that "vintage" sound. After a 20-year hiatus to raise a family, a 115 Yamaha combo was one of the first amps I used and it was OK. But my DNS-210 definitely sounds better and louder. I've also played with 112's, 212's, and 2x112's and I do like those too, but they don't seem to quite have the immediacy and punch of my 210. I still have my 2x112 set up but always choose my 210 over that. I will use my 112 in small venues because I can easily carry in or out my amp, cab, gig bag, and bass in one trip. I put the amp in its shoulder bag over one shoulder, gig bag over the other, grab the cab in one hand and my bass in the other and away I go... but that's not enough for most mid-size venues.

So, between a 115 and a 210 as a one cab solution, I go with the 210.

 

[Rip Van Dan]

2x10 Or 1x 15 ??
Which would you choose and why?
I’m thinking Aguilar .
I’m looking for something also that will pair well with my 2x12 cab .

Best to add another 212 cab, but a 210 cab will also work fine. I use a 112 for small venues, a DNS-210 (handles 700-watts rms and is crazy loud) for all my indoor venues and my DNS-410 for outdoor venues and Music Festivals. If I really want to get crazy, I'll stack both my 210 and my 410. If I run both of mine together it's a 610 set up and I can split 800-watts between the two. Since my 210 can handle 700-watts rms and my 410 handles 1,400 watts, neither of them are struggling.

If you get either a 210 or a 115 try to get at least the same or slightly higher power handling in the 210 or 115 than your 212 otherwise they may struggle to keep up with your 212. Either of them will work, but the 210 being on top should sound the best and of course you can use it by itself for small and medium-sized venues.

 

[Stevorebob]

1x12. Or another 2x12. If you like what you have, get more.

 

[Bass Butcher]

To this day, one of the best bass sounds I ever got was from a 412 cabinet. I'm a big believer in matching cabs (coupling FTW), so I'd be going with another 212 for sure.

There is that. I'd consider that a four way tie between that, a 2x8, a same brand/model 210 cab, an up one tier same brand 15 or a 15 that met those benchmarks.
All different outcomes but all additive in their own ways. Adding something like an ELF 2x8 to an Aguilar quality 212 could make a very nice microstack.

 

[Bass Butcher]

If you get either a 210 or a 115 try to get at least the same or slightly higher power handling in the 210 or 115 than your 212 otherwise they may struggle to keep up with your 212. Either of them will work, but the 210 being on top should sound the best and of course you can use it by itself for small and medium-sized venues.

I didn't want to risk being controversial so I just said the lower freq cabinet but this is more accurate, lol

 

[chadhargis]

I really want to try a pair of those!

They are really marvelous.

I also had a 2x12 "Big Baby 3" cab and it was just overkill. It played so loud it knocked pictures off my wall. The two One10 cabs are perfect. All I need for practice and small gigs. And I think they are 14lbs a piece. The are very small and light, but pack a punch. They carry a low B not too.