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Small(er) form envelope filter?

Pacodelivery

Pacodelivery

May 25, 2014
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Hey all,

Been really trying to pack my board and all these large envelope filter pedals are giving me a headache.

I already sold my HAZ mutron iii which I liked but was waaaaaay too big, and bought an EHX enigma which I'm digging, but I wish it was half its size, especially considering I don't use the distortion at all.

So what you got for recommendations for a boss sized or smaller filter?

Needs other than size: mid ranged voicing, plays nice with fuzz, usable down drive.

Ones that have tried and failed:

EBS Bassiq: loved the voicing of the normal setting but the action was weird to me, the down didn't work all that great, and it disappeared in the mix

Aguilar filter twin: voiced waaaay to high

3leaf proton v1.5: couldn't get it to open, heard this was a problem with their earlier versions (I play a passive bass with flats)

Dod fx25: wacky & out of control but kinda cool

Source audio pro: meh sounded fake

MXR BEF: could never get that blend balanced right, and wasn't my kinda quack.

I'm interested in the keely neutrino, and the DOD 440. I'm also all ears if the newer protons are better
 
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Pacodelivery said:
Wait so you've tried the 440? That one was high on my list, cause it has both up and down sweeps (and I'm a big fan of DOD stuff.) Did you end up liking it?
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Not the 440 itself; I've had the Malekko and the MojoHand 442 though, both based on it, and I dug them. Neither of those does Down if I remember right though.
 
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DDXdesign said:
Not the 440 itself; I've had the Malekko and the MojoHand 442 though, both based on it, and I dug them. Neither of those does Down if I remember right though.
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The 442 is awesome! I tried it at a shop and really dug it, and even bought it once but the seller ended up sending it to the wrong place and canceled the sale then refunded me. I'm happier because in the interim I've found more needs for a down sweep.

If the 440 is like the 442 but with a downstroke I'd be super into it!
 
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Pacodelivery said:
See, I shied away from this one, cause I saw a number of posts saying that it was best when used with an expression pedal. I'm more of an auto wah guy.
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Fwiw, I'm not currently using an exp pedal with it. I set up a tube boost in front of it to mimic a moog mf 101 as best I could for the small board. It's not quite up to the moogs level but it's as close as I need for live.
 
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I've got a Maxon AF-9 and a JohnK MuTron clone. They sound very similar to each other, and both sound excellent.

If you like the MuTron sound, either one would be a great choice.

Edit: The Maxon has a well-known, but slight, volume boost when engaged. It's very noticeable when playing alone, but not so much in the real world. The JohnK pedal has a volume control, which is very nice.
 
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Charley Umbria said:
I've got a Maxon AF-9 and a JohnK Mutron clone. They sound very similar to each other, and both sound excellent.

If you like the Mutron sound, either one would be a great choice.
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I haven't tried JohnK's MuTron (though given his build quality and attention to detail I'm sure it's awesome) but the Maxon is an often overlooked pedal that is a nice MuTron III substitute. The sliders/settings can be a bit finicky but when dialed in it sounds great.

I'm a huge Xerograph fan. It's the most important pedal I own. I use it as a static low pass filter for fun stuff, as a way with an expression pedal, as a swept low pass filter as part of a synthy chain and definitely as a standalone envelope filter.
 
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Charley Umbria said:
I've got a Maxon AF-9 and a JohnK Mutron clone. They sound very similar to each other, and both sound excellent.

If you like the Mutron sound, either one would be a great choice.
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Jared Lash said:
I haven't tried JohnK's MuTron (though given his build quality and attention to detail I'm sure it's awesome) but the Maxon is an often overlooked pedal that is a nice MuTron III substitute. The sliders/settings can be a bit finicky but when dialed in it sounds great.

I'm a huge Xerograph fan. It's the most important pedal I own. I use it as a static low pass filter for fun stuff, as a way with an expression pedal, as a swept low pass filter as part of a synthy chain and definitely as a standalone envelope filter.
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I've been interested in the Maxon for a while but have been concerned about dialing it in.

That being said I'm sure it's great. I have a vintage Maxon AD-9 and (that's on semi permanent loan to my g****rist) it's one of the best built pedals I've ever owned
 

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