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Smoking pot while being in a band
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That makes just as much sense as saying you've never ridden a bicycle but think that it's a losing proposition too. Opinions with no intellect attached are never short of determinations based on imagination.
Agreeing with most of what's been said here by smokers and not by people sucked in by propaganda, this one ting is true: pot raises your blood pressure and your pulse rate. If you are out of shape, a heavy drinker, eat no vegis/fruits for antioxidents, pot can be a stroke risk factor! Without a doubt.
To the ignorant: music is a drug as it changes your consciousness. So it exercise. You have NO IDEA what it is like to perceive as another person does...brain chemistry is the difference between us. Our neurotransmitters use substances like THC or LSD [chemicals] to work, increase a bit of this. less of that and you get motivation or lack of, creative energy or lack of, etc etc etc.
The only "drug problem" Charlie Parker EVER HAD was not being able to score. Being busted, hated and institutionalized is what killed him, not drugs! With his drug of choice, he would have lived many long years expanding the possibilities of chords, melody and improvisation. Have you ever heard the guy?
A Christian monk in a cell in 1134, fasting and beating himself with knotted ropes...guess why? Seeking a momentary hallucinatory breakthrough.
There is NO Such Thing as REALITY [when it's used to bludgeon someone out of their dreams] Everyone seeks to get high in some way. Singing hymns in church lifts you up! right? [No, it's just the oxygen depletion.] Some people make something out of it and some don't.
If it's a joke then cool, but it sure reeks of snobbery to me.
Beer snobbery is big business around TB. Im inclined to agree, though, I only drink Budweiser or beer of that ilk if its coming to me free of charge, much in the same way that I dont smoke stress.
While there is nothing wrong with not ever having gotten drunk or stoned in your life, on what reasoning do you make the assumption that its a losing proposition? Just curious, and interested in hearing a different persepctive.
If it's a joke then cool, but it sure reeks of snobbery to me.
It's a bit of both. It is a crap beer though... objectively speaking.
Well said.
It's simple, you friend does not want to be a productive member of a Band.
Let him go, find someone who does.
LoL! I'm not a drinker, but I have many friends who do and many of them are of the mind that there is no bad beer, as long as they're allowed to have one. One in particular loves expensive beers, but insists that the only bad beer is an empty one.
Objectively speaking, it can't be a crap beer if it makes people happy. Kind of a live-and-let-live thought process there. I don't think much of condemning other peoples tastes.
Just to be fair here. I'm a cancer survivor, and I chose not to use pot throughout the whole thing. It's not mandatory treatment, by any means.
I have had a few close friends go a similar way. One...well, the fact that I don't know what he's up to these days, that says a lot. Another came out the other side - still smokes a fair bit, but functions perfectly well. Some people just take it too far, that seems to be the case here. In my experience most people make it through, but some don't...talk to your friend, it can seem like a bloody awkward thing to do, but he may just thank you.
And to whoever said no good music has ever been written on pot, I think maybe you mean to say has never been recorded under the influence. I would hazard a guess many, many (rock and related) classics were composed under the influence.
And to whoever said no good music has ever been written on pot, I think maybe you mean to say has never been recorded under the influence. I would hazard a guess many, many (rock and related) classics were composed under the influence.
LoL! I'm not a drinker, but I have many friends who do and many of them are of the mind that there is no bad beer, as long as they're allowed to have one. One in particular loves expensive beers, but insists that the only bad beer is an empty one.
Objectively speaking, it can't be a crap beer if it makes people happy. Kind of a live-and-let-live thought process there. I don't think much of condemning other peoples tastes.
I felt that way when I was younger and just looking to get drunk. As I matured Ive come to appreciate beer as a chosen tasty beverage. The difference in taste between mass produced beers like Bud & Coors, and craft brew beers like Fat Tire or Arrogant Bastard is huge! These days I drink beer to enjoy it, and not just to get drunk. Ive had enough days of scrapping up change to buy a case of PBR. Same goes for light beers, I need to drink a 12 pack, and fell all bloated, just to get the buzz Id get from 3 or 4 craft brews. However, I wont begrudge anyone for their taste in beer, people are free to drink what they like.
A funny story, last May I went to El Paso with a friend, where his parents live. He's a light beer drinker. We drank from morning til night, Bud Light after Bud Light. By Saturday night I felt SO bloated I couldnt eat anymore. All that, and I never got drunk. Since then I wont buy what I refer to as "cheap beer".
oops, didn't think of that. I did mean it in a completely generic way though, wasn't referring to any particlar party in US or Canadian politics.
Yeah, I'm sure the brilliant music wasn't a product of the composer/musician's actual talent and was all due to the psychoactive drugs they took. Their personality only comes into the equation if they don't become more intelligent with pot - they must not be a weed person, if that's the case.
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Biggest load of BS I've ever read in my life. Potheads who try to defend their addiction by citing all the great artists who smoked pot make me sick. And to the OP: if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't even have started a TB thread. The guy would be out of the band by now. If someone doesn't make the cut, get rid of them or you're wasting time. This individual chose his path, so he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.
It's the person. Not the weed. Anyone that blames their shortcomings in life on drugs/alcohol deserves them. Some people function on it. Some don't. End on discussion!
whoa, simmer down man! Sounds like someone could benefit from a nice relaxing spliff! Hard headed, f*ck you all, eh? Man, some of you anti-pot dudes are rigid!
Seriously, open your mind a little, but if it must remain closed, please don't put words in my mouth. My point is that there has been lots of great music written under the influence of various substances (in response to claims made to the contrary by others in this thread). There has also a lot of great music written by sober people as well. And no, drugs do not write music - I never claimed that - but they have been a factor in some pretty awesome tunes! At the end of the day, those tunes were the product of human genius - how much or how little they were influenced by a buzz, we'll never know.
Back to the OP's original post, he did say the house the guy lives in was bought for him, so he probably IS lazy and doesn't have the need to "work" to provide for himself. But the whole girlfriend thing may be the root of the depression. To say a few years back he was ok, and then turned into a shut-in after the girl thing, that might be it. I do know that many moons ago when my girlfriend of 5 years had cheated on me and basically made me look like a fool i blamed myself 100%. It was hard to socialize, I felt every move i made was going to be criticized and i would be left with nothing. He may feel that same way. Why give any effort if it's going to blow up in your face anyway? I was down in the dumps for about 4 years, and playing in a go-nowhere band at the time. I didn't see any real reason to try harder.
He needs some sort of boost of self-confidence. That works wonders.
RE: the pot thing. some can take it, others can't. Being a lazy person can add to the effects of pot. It's a glass half-full half-empty thing to me..
He needs some sort of boost of self-confidence. That works wonders.
RE: the pot thing. some can take it, others can't. Being a lazy person can add to the effects of pot. It's a glass half-full half-empty thing to me..
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