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So... why does everyone and their mother spell 'Squier' wrong?

#81
Munjibunga said:
It's "... everyone and his mother ... ."
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Since there are several hundred postings here I haven't read every one as to whether someone else brought this up, but could it be a result of the spelling of the last name of...wait for it...

Chris Squire...?

Heck I don't know, people are just basically lazy and try to spell the way it sounds without knowing whether it's correct or not.
 
#87
I'd almost give Canadians a pass on misspelling SQUIER - as SQUIRE...

Canadian English has many more words that end in "RE" - eg. metre, litre - so it rolls off the keyboard more easily?

but just one pass... then get it right or nobody will know what you're talking about.

But don't get me started on Percision Basses or Trust Rods...
 
#88
Waterpilot said:
That's how I originally spelled but spell check changed my mind. :spit:
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So, why do we have to rely on spell check to communicate? Not flaming you as far too many rely on their spell check.

I read many uncorrected galleys (the advance copies publishers send to libraries and bookstores to get they to buy books) and find these types of errors on a regular basis. Grammar geeks unite!

Dan K.
 
#89
Kwesi said:
Haha, it's cool. English is what I was referring to. I just wanted to emphasize the idea that since we're born here, we should be well versed in our own language since we grow up with it. But, at least to me, it seems like a lot of people don't really feel the same way. I'm not talking about TB though. For the most part, people here understand that.
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Schools do not emphasize spelling because the parents do not care and fail to support the schools. The schools are also focused on teaching to prepare for standardized tests rather than developing minds. Again, I blame the parents more than the schools.

Dan K.
 
#90
pbasswil said:
Hey, it doesn't help that Fender chose an antique spelling of an obsolete French word that we normally spell in English "squire". It comes from "esquier" (French: ess-key-ay), which is about as far from the English pronunciation as you could get.

I propose a reformed spelling: Skwire. You know -- like how some hillbillies might pronounce square. :^>
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Hillbillies say it "Skwar"as in
"Air yew aw a-goin to thuh SKWAR daince Sairdy?":p
 
#91
Being lazy, I haven't read the whole thread, so I apologize if this has been addressed. I used to be an audiophile wanna-be, i. e., someone who did not have the bread to buy the mega-buck stereo equipment that I lusted after. I started reading AV fourms (fora? Hey, I had three years of Latin in high school.) and went nuts every time some poster referred to the lower tones in music as "base". I know that nobody does that in this forum. Anyoe who does should be condemned to playing guitar for LIFE.

I also believe that correct speling and grammer are importent to gooder communicashun. However, we shud always reelize that many of us ain't such good tipists.
 
#94
I suspect that spell-checkers have something to do with it. Or, people just don't pay attention.

But on the correct-grammar/spelling issue more broadly: go and read books by the highly educated intelligentsia of, say, the sixteenth or eighteenth century. Shakespeare, Jonathan Edwards, whoever you like. Read them in original manuscripts, or in editions that have not been "corrected" or standardized by modern editors. What you'll see is that for most of the history of human education and literacy, phonetic spelling has been pretty normal and people have used written grammar that reflects spoken grammar (Jonathan Edwards, for instance, regularly uses "don't" where the "correct" usage is supposed to be "doesn't"). And forget about medieval writers. I have manuscripts that spell the name of THE SAME INDIVIDUAL variously as Odilo, Otilo, Ottilo, Uatilo, and more besides - all by highly educated scribes.

The fact is that the notion of strictly "correct" grammar and spelling independent of actual spoken usage is relatively recent -- late eighteenth/early nineteenth century, if I remember correctly. The point of introducing it was to create a means to distinguish people by class in an age of upward mobility, more widespread education and literacy. Only the very most educated would know the intricacies of the various artificial, arbitrary rules. Of course, democratization in education played along so that every public school made a goal of teaching "correct" grammar and spelling to every child and dismissing them as "uneducated" if they failed to play by the rules.

It's obvious from this that I don't approve of the whole phenomenon. The irony is that, as a teacher, I still use correct usage as one of my grading criteria. The reason is that, for better or worse, "correct usage" is still a litmus test of a person's educational achievement and I can't send my students out into the world with the message that it doesn't matter -- if I don't make them write "correctly," somebody else will penalize them for it.
 
#95
Tracebassplayer said:
... like the guys that wear their pants sagging.. They think it doesn't matter or it's cool.
What they don't know is that the whole sagging thing started in prison by inmates that were advertising that they were "willing"... :eyebrow:
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Oh man; see, this is why I scour the new posts on TB everyday. Where else am I going to get precious nuggets of information like this?? ;) ! ! !
 
#96
Orangeclawhamme said:
I started reading AV fourms (fora? Hey, I had three years of Latin in high school.)
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No no, you were right. It's fourms :D


Orangeclawhamme said:
...went nuts every time some poster referred to the lower tones in music as "base". I know that nobody does that in this forum. Anyoe who does should be condemned to playing guitar for LIFE.
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Well, technically, bass guitar often has the role of playing the base tones. Hurrhurrhurr. :smug:
 
#97
To (not "too" nor "two) the topic of the original post. As has been said, the name FMIC puts on their (not "there" nor "they're") inexpensive import line is "Squier" because it's (not "its") a name they own. Fender bought the V. C. Squier string company right around the time CBS bought the company and has owned the rights to that name for musical equipment since.

Why people don't spell it correctly- a whole other thing, mostly I believe due (not "do) to laziness and a generally uncaring attitude about communicating accurately. But I believe most of our political problems is because people don't WANT accurate communication, they merely want the 20 second soundbite so subtlety and nuance are discarded.

And the lunkheads who say "well, you understood what I meant" would do well to remember that if they're asking for help, making it more work to get to the question isn't going to help their (not "they're" nor "there") cause in the least.

I'm with Kwesi here (not "hear"). Note my signature...

And don't ever type "walla" or "viola" if you mean "voila"...
John
 
#98
Tracebassplayer said:
That's why we, as a society, are headed down the the toilet. "It doesn't matter" that people misspell "mispell" and think it's OK. :eek:
It's like the guys that wear their pants sagging.. They think it doesn't matter or it's cool.
What they don't know is that the whole sagging thing started in prison by inmates that were advertising that they were "willing"... :eyebrow:
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:D

Lookin' like a foo' wit yo pance own da groun'...
 

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