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This really should be pinned due to it's historic nature!
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The agent knows his venue, and since he's the one doing the hiring, he gets to have an opinion. Obviously he's more professional than your bandmates. And besides...he offered you a tentative gig.
Tell your fellow bandmates to get over their butthurt over nothing and act a little more adult and professional. Wait until you've actually got a real name for yourselves before anybody starts pulling the Nigel Tufnel rockstar BS.
If the comp looks reasonable, take the gig.
If it's less than you'd like, consider accepting anyway (this is a step up to a bigger market right?) on the proviso it'll be a one-time 'get acquainted' price only. He's not 100% happy with just three people on stage. Show him he's wrong and that it'll work just fine - then renegotiate your fee for the next gig you play there. Because if you did your job, you'll get asked back.
Tell your fellow bandmates to get over their butthurt over nothing and act a little more adult and professional. Wait until you've actually got a real name for yourselves before anybody starts pulling the Nigel Tufnel rockstar BS.
If the comp looks reasonable, take the gig.
If it's less than you'd like, consider accepting anyway (this is a step up to a bigger market right?) on the proviso it'll be a one-time 'get acquainted' price only. He's not 100% happy with just three people on stage. Show him he's wrong and that it'll work just fine - then renegotiate your fee for the next gig you play there. Because if you did your job, you'll get asked back.
True story: Very famous (now) youngster drummer in my band in the early 80s. Club manager says you can't bring that "N" into my club. This happened by two different owners in Atlanta btw. I never told the drummer and declined the gigs.
It could have crushed his spirit. Hell--if you got youngin's or cupcakes in a band---don't tell 'em squat.
It could have crushed his spirit. Hell--if you got youngin's or cupcakes in a band---don't tell 'em squat.
jdthebassman
play to live live to play
take the gig as a person who like yourself booked bands your band mates would understand if they did the work. if you have to have another piece you must know some one who can do it add a keyboard etc I have had to do it many times once a client wanted a 5 piece band I added a conga, bongo player the client loved it and we all got paid well and she asked us back many times. tell your band mates the more flexable you are the more you will work. now if I only could find some serious players that wanted to do this right I would be in heaven
ha ha ha! always go for the easy way out!The interesting thing is, I usually DO keep the bad stuff away from them. I had no idea commenting on the size of our band would be so offensive!
Oh, and I think I've unintentionally become the manager even though I've only been in this band for 2 years and the two other guys formed it back in 2009. They'd been playing the same 3-4 places over and over and had worn out their welcome so weren't getting any money and weren't having any fun. I took over booking, found new places, rebuilt their confidence in our product and went from a 15-20 gigs a year band to 40-45 gigs a year with better venues and better pay. I might be dealing with a slight regression in confidence as we're moving into bigger/better venues so the easy way out is to say the venue sucks and we shouldn't play it rather than play it and not be asked back.
The easy way to address that is to play it, knock their socks off, and be added to a rotation! Easy peasy!
it sounds like you're doing great work. keep it up! I'm sure it won't quite be as appreciated as it should be. But that seems to be par for the course.
take the gig
as for your band mates, share details with them them on a need to know basis from now on.
as for your band mates, share details with them them on a need to know basis from now on.
Then my vote is to RAGE QUIT!
Sorry, my club can't book your band, you are all bald and toothless and you smell like sheet.
So then I guess it's unanimous except for Milo, who had to vent his spleen while we were 'splaining miles of work done by OP.
I have sometimes contemplated getting three or four of these for big stages:
OMG! We were totally going to do that for a drummer for awhile!!! Backing track with a kit and flailing arm air guy with sticks taped on!
I took a screen capture of the unanimous vote for proof that we CAN all agree on something.
Oh and wanted to add -come on band take the %$&! gig!
Guys dont know what a giant job is booking gigs -i'ts like selling vaccum cleaners sometimes!!
I dont think i have ever seen 100% vote on TB for anything. Cats are going to start sleeping with dogs its the bass playing apocolypse i say!
Guys dont know what a giant job is booking gigs -i'ts like selling vaccum cleaners sometimes!!
I dont think i have ever seen 100% vote on TB for anything. Cats are going to start sleeping with dogs its the bass playing apocolypse i say!
I say screw that sizist promoter! Pah! I spit on him and his gig!
Fire drummer!
Rage quit!
Equilibrium restored. Disaster averted. TB future intact.
Take the gig and turn the comment to your advantage:
Bring out a manikin with a fake guitar and put it next a mic and BOOM!
You're a 4 member band that only has to split the pay between 3 members
Bring out a manikin with a fake guitar and put it next a mic and BOOM!
You're a 4 member band that only has to split the pay between 3 members
I have sometimes contemplated getting three or four of these for big stages:
Wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man!
