Double Bass Sonores Gut Strings by Gerold Genssler

[carl_modal]

Seems we've gone a bit off topic

 

[shwashwa]

Is there a resource where one can see what kind of strings he's currently making?

 

[AndreasH]

Is there a resource where one can see what kind of strings he's currently making?

He continously keeps these files up to date.

Ihr persönlicher Freigabelink | GMX Cloud

 

[logdrum]

Of course, I'd rather play next to the ride for groove, but often times I setup beside the hi-hat to save my ears and to hear my bass better. Observe the drummers you work with and you realize that the bottom of the ride cymbal is like a speaker cone that efficiently projects the treble freqs out directly -- potentially dominating the sound-scape, even with the most sensitive of drummers.

Drummer's forums have discussions about the ride cymbal tilt. The biggest issue seems to be the feel of the cymbal. When it's tilted the rebound is diminished, hence overall control of your dynamic range is diminished.
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Drummers also may not think about how the tilt of ALL the cymbals impact the tonal balance of their kit from out front.

I have respectfully submitted to you my drummer observations of the aforementioned Bill McHenry trio video. If I were a producer, and that trio was in my recording studio, I would certainly ask the drummer to adjust his ride cymbal down -- just like it would also be fair for me to ask a drummer to tune his drums if need be.

why would you have an opinion what height and angle the drummer should have their cymbal? Surely that's an individual decision based on their body/technique/sound?
He sounds great to me

Two words Al Foster



That horizontal ride thing is more a personal taste and we as bassists should not worry too much. I agree with @oliebrice and I also play drums.

And to some extent Tony Williams

 

[lurk]

Got enough to do playing bass. Don't need to tell drummers how to set up. I occasionally work with a drummer who has definite ideas about how bassists should set up their instruments and choose their strings. PITA.

 

[Sam Dingle]

Back on topic, is he making strings with gut still or is it all synthetic?

 

[bassmanbrent]

Got enough to do playing bass. Don't need to tell drummers how to set up. I occasionally work with a drummer who has definite ideas about how bassists should set up their instruments and choose their strings. PITA.

If you want to have an unpleasant gig, the easiest way to do it, in my opinion, is to tell the other musicians how to set up their gear and how play their instruments

 

[Co.]

Back on topic, is he making strings with gut still or is it all synthetic?

I think he's using silk cores. No gut, no synthetic. AFAIK

 

[LaFaro01]

I think he's using silk cores. No gut, no synthetic. AFAIK

That is almost correct. The Corax strings use a kind of "stabilized" gut and the D and G strings of the B-Roque are built with natural gut... all other strings are built with a silk core.... that is at least my information from last year...

 

[Sam Dingle]

Didn't think i was on a mailing list but I just got this email about a standard line called Tempera Strings:

"We founded the Tempera Strings GmbH in 2019. Tempera forge a somewhat new path. The background: In the past 30 years I was always in the process of developing and improving. That was necessary to achieve the quality that we have today. Since I now reached a level of quality, the time demands for a constant product. This will be the Tempera String. The positive side effect of this change will be an easier production process and therefore a better availability of the strings

Though Sonores will remain an ongoing inventive and research-based model, the Tempera Stringitself is more like a full-stop at the end of sentence. In other words, Sonores will continue as usual: Develop new models, respond to specific requests (eg. special tunings) and always come up with something new. Tempera, on the other hand, will be completely consistent, offering a more reduced palette of string models swiftly and reliably.

Sound of the Tempera Strings
While retaining the well known ‘Genssler String’ sound, the Tempera Design took players of steel strings into consideration right from the beginning. Uncompromising in terms of sound, they significantly facilitate the transition away from steel strings. To achieve that, we changed the construction of the core which results in more resistance against bow weight and an extremely focussed and deep sound.

The first models of Tempera will be a set in regular E-A-D-G tuning mainly for bow use. A Solo Set in (F#-B-E-A) and a Jazz Set might follow."

They say they may come this summer. No mention of price. Sounds like a typical arco focused steel string. Maybe this will be a good set. I would have expected them to come with a standard wrapped gut set, like an olive but not custom. Maybe in the future.

 

[LaFaro01]

...They say they may come this summer. No mention of price. Sounds like a typical arco focused steel string. Maybe this will be a good set. I would have expected them to come with a standard wrapped gut set, like an olive but not custom. Maybe in the future.

There is already a website for Tempera Strings...
Home | Tempera Strings
But as you said before.. sale is not started yet because of further fine-tuning of the strings..

 

[oliebrice]

Interesting... might be a bit cheaper if they're simplifying the process ...

 

[Sean Riddle]

If it is a silk core string, I may finally have a reason to try these out once they're available in the US and when they have a more pizz friendly string. I still feel set on sticking with Spiro Mittels, but I really did love Animas and if these are better than Animas then I may have to convert.

 

[AndreasH]

If it is a silk core string, I may finally have a reason to try these out once they're available in the US and when they have a more pizz friendly string. I still feel set on sticking with Spiro Mittels, but I really did love Animas and if these are better than Animas then I may have to convert.

My wild guess is that they most probably will be silk-cored.

 

[oliebrice]

Has anyone here got experience of using genssler strings on a bass with a detachable neck?

I'm a long term spiro mittels user but not quite convinced on my travel bass, a Fly Auray. The bass is very bright and punchy and also seems to sing more with lower tension than I use on my big German bass. I've really enjoyed Gensslers on some borrowed basses but worried about strings that expensive on a travel bass...

 

[John Goldsby]

Hi Olie, I'm using the Genssler on my Jean Auray neck-off bass ... they sound good and I haven't had any problems with taking the neck off, re-adjusting the strings etc.

 

[oliebrice]

Thanks John. How long have they lasted you so far?

 

[John Goldsby]

I've had the current set on for about 2 years ... thinking about ordering a new set though

 

[oliebrice]

Very useful, thanks

 

[peteswanson91]

I've had the current set on for about 2 years ... thinking about ordering a new set though

What set are you thinking of ordering Maesto Goldsby??? I have his 2020 AP and they are fantastic! I have had 2018 and 2016 before... as well as a bunch of others... fascinated by the new tempera brand... truly wish I lived in Europe to go to Gerold directly with my bass! I did find using his tailpiece and tailwire made a big difference in opening it up, as well as a carbon fiber soundpost. Am fascinated with what you are looking at getting now!