sound guy ignoring direct out on amp

[Floyd Eye]

I have met Fieldy twice. Both times he was gracious and very cool. A down to earth guy.

 

[agedhorse]

As the overarching theme of this thread suggests, it largely depends upon the individuals involved. With the right people (and at the right time in one's life) it can be the adventure of a lifetime.

True that.. or the nightmare of a lifetime, but always good for entertaining stories around the bar

 

[JimmyM]

I have met Fieldy twice. Both times he was gracious and very cool. A down to earth guy.

That's good to know. He seemed kind of annoying in that vid I talked about earlier

 

[tech21nyc]

Actually, these days it seems like I'm begging soundmen to turn the bass DOWN! I play 50's-60's-70's music with my main band, and it's just plain not mixed like today's music, yet so many soundmen insist on it, especially younger ones.

+1 on this. It's a constant struggle when we do big shows. What happens is that there is so much low end you can't even tell what pitch the bass is playing. It's mostly problematic when the band is too close to the PA's subs.

 

[lavaxtris]

+1 on this. It's a constant struggle when we do big shows. What happens is that there is so much low end you can't even tell what pitch the bass is playing. It's mostly problematic when the band is too close to the PA's subs.

+1 again. why is every club like this? its horrible and doesnt separate the band's sounds at all.

 

[David Jayne]

+1 again. why is every club like this? its horrible and doesnt separate the band's sounds at all.

That, and why does the kick drum have to be louder than a sonic boom?

 

[AngelCrusher]

Because clubs are wired for dance music and live bands are not their moneymaker.

If you go to a proper live music venue, it should sound cleaner, but if it is also a nightclub, I can assure you their speakers are bought to crank out lows.

 

[modulusman]

Actually, these days it seems like I'm begging soundmen to turn the bass DOWN! I play 50's-60's-70's music with my main band, and it's just plain not mixed like today's music, yet so many soundmen insist on it, especially younger ones.



.

That is because the younger ones are the same idiots that drive around with the big subwoofers in their cars that you can here 3 blocks away. They don't have a clue what a live band should sound like.

 

[agedhorse]

That, and why does the kick drum have to be louder than a sonic boom?

Some folks, usually younger ones, haven't yet figured out that kick and bass are generally not the lead instruments. That and "because they CAN"

 

[Chef]

Kick drum....isn't.....a lead instrument...?!?!?!?!?!

When did this happen? I -did not- get the memo on this.
This is gonna change my gig tonight.

 

[taurus1]

Some folks, usually younger ones, haven't yet figured out that kick and bass are generally not the lead instruments. That and "because they CAN"

bass is a lead instrument in my band (sax, bass, drums).
as a soundman, don't you like a lot of bottom end?
I know I do, I don't mix doo wop or 50's revival bands though, if I did I would probably back off the bottom end.

 

[Chef]

Bass level appropriate to the mix is gonna vary by genre.
And, by song even.

For me, once my level is set during soundcheck, I can control those dynamics myself...

 

[BurningSkies]

Bass level appropriate to the mix is gonna vary by genre.
And, by song even.

For me, once my level is set during soundcheck, I can control those dynamics myself...

Its funny...I seldom feel like I'm too loud out front.

 

[taurus1]

Its funny...I seldom feel like I'm too loud out front.

me neither, rarely a complaint I hear from any musician.

 

[ArtechnikA]

That is because the younger ones are the same idiots that drive around with the big subwoofers in their cars that you can here 3 blocks away.

My wife and I have a joke: If I can hear your music, you are in range...

 

[Jim C]

Serious question:
What's the most important instrument in a rock band after the lead singer?



Answer: The snare drum as that's what the kids dance to. Can't remember what famous musician said that some 40 years ago but it does make sense for alot of pop music at a club.

 

[agedhorse]

Kick drum....isn't.....a lead instrument...?!?!?!?!?!

When did this happen? I -did not- get the memo on this.
This is gonna change my gig tonight.

When the kick is well above the lead vocal, I know it's going to be a rough night. A pummeling is not what most folks that go to the shows I work expect for what they pay for a ticket.

Some genres, sure, but not most.

 

[Chef]

I was kidding

 

[svtb15]

I tried that once.. but the sock broke.. Hey im from Brooklyn.. we swing fast

Fieldy? Seriously?

I would take Fieldy out back by the dumpster and beat him with sock full of nickels.

 

[Session1969]

Its funny...I seldom feel like I'm too loud out front.

Is there a such thing when playing reggae ? Lol !