Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[Adamixoye]

Strymon has a new power supply out soon that does 9x500mA. I use a Pedal Power 2+ and a Pedal Power Digital. With 11 pedals on your board and potentially 2 more, I can't think of any single power supply that will work without daisy-chaining pedals.

The Strymon one will chain a 2nd 5-spot power supply off of it making 14 from one AC plug. Invalid Link Removed

The Strymon looks really cool. The only thing I would miss about my PP Mondo is the courtesy AC outlet.

 

[Smallequestrian]

Hey guys, figured I'd ask here since the majority of my power needs are SA related.

I've been spending time troubleshooting a high pitched squeal in my board. It's very subtle, but once dirt is kicked on it magnifies itself and its obnoxious. I've more or less narrowed it down to power supply since half my board is on a once spot, and unplugging any two pedals from it causes it to go away (I've tried narrowing it down to a specific pedal or cable, but it acts the same throughout multiple scenarios)

Anyway, I am going to bite the bullet and invest in a power supply. I currently have a Fuel Tank Chaneleon and a one spot and daisy chain. I could get a second fuel tank bit I'd rather a single simple solution.

Pedals I have (and plan to keep)
SA Nemesis
SA Aftershock
SA Manta
SA Soleman (70ma)
SA Hub
Darkglass B7KU
DG Duality
DG Super Symmetry
Digitech Meatbox
Polytune 2
Boss OC-2

I also have room for 2 more pedals so ideally I'd like to plan for a full board.

All that's listed is 9v DC, so that makes it simpler than AC and weird voltage amounts.

I'd look into the Cioks DC10, has enough high powered outlets to suit you and you can make the rest work from there. I also used a Voodoo 4x4 when I had a big board and that was quite useful as well.

 

[adamaarts]

I'd look into the Cioks DC10, has enough high powered outlets to suit you and you can make the rest work from there. I also used a Voodoo 4x4 when I had a big board and that was quite useful as well.

Pretty sure that's the one.

I may be talking crazy here, but I have a bad itch to massively downsize my rig soon. The aftershock and Nemesis are extremely powerful without Midi, plus a good comp, tuner, volume, and Meatbox or something special like that.

Like I said, probably talking crazy

 

[adamaarts]

Nemesis question:

How do I set up an expression pedal (attached to the hub exp port) to control a parameter in the Nemesis?
I'm using the hub manager software. I can set scenes and change the sounds already. Firmware in up to date. Sounds change as expected when I tweak knobs via the software. Expression pedal works as expected to control Manta and OFD via the hub. I just can't figure out the Nemesis page in the software. If someone can walk me through getting it to control any parameter, I'd appreciate it.

Follow up.

I can't get mine to work either. Expression works fine connected directly to the Nemesis, but through the Hub into the Nemesis it won't work.

It will control the Aftershock and Manta, but nothing on he Nemesis. Everything is updated.

 

[pbfrog]

Follow up.

I can't get mine to work either. Expression works fine connected directly to the Nemesis, but through the Hub into the Nemesis it won't work.

It will control the Aftershock and Manta, but nothing on he Nemesis. Everything is updated.

Thanks for trying it out. I have an email in to SA support. We'll see what the brain trust thinks about it.

 

[adamaarts]

Soleman in the house:

 

[pbfrog]

Regarding my Nemesis/hub/expression problem: @nathannavarro confirmed that it looks like a firmware issue and he passed it to the engineers.

 

[nnavarro]

Regarding my Nemesis/hub/expression problem: @nathannavarro confirmed that it looks like a firmware issue and he passed it to the engineers.

Double confirm. We're working on it.

 

[nnavarro]

@pbfrog @adamaarts ...aaand it's fixed. Nemesis 1.16: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

 

[pbfrog]

@pbfrog @adamaarts ...aaand it's fixed. Nemesis 1.16: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

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Thanks for the quick turn-around. I can map the expression pedal using the procedure on the Nemesis pedal itself.

How can I do it using the Hub Manager? The 'Enable' button in the External Control section of the Nemesis window turns on the red control LED on the pedal. Nothing else in that section seems to have any effect.

I set up 2 test scenes with different engines loaded in the Nemesis.

Test 1 has a digital engine. I used the hardware procedure to map the EXP to the Time knob. It changes the delay time as expected. I hit the 'Read from Pedal' button and the External Control selectors changed to 'Mapped to knobs' and 'Hub X'. I hit 'Save and close' and then saved the scene.
Test 2 has a tape engine and I mapped the EXP to the Mix knob. It changes the mix as expected. I used the Hub Manager to update and save with the same results as the previous scene.

I changed scenes back to Test 1 and the EXP has no effect. Back to Test 2 and it has no effect.

Again, I can save a scene with the EXP on the Manta or OFD and recall it with no issues.

I haven't tried saving the Nemesis effect directly on the pedal with EXP mapped and then recalling via MIDI because I'm trying to simplify my MIDI commands to not overload the hub.

 

[jwr]

Ummmmmmmmmm I love my Nemesis. Did I tell you guys that? OMG it's sooooooooo good with the Boss DD500 too! No joke! Source Audio, you guys are killing it with these pedals!!

 

[nnavarro]

Thanks for the quick turn-around. I can map the expression pedal using the procedure on the Nemesis pedal itself.

How can I do it using the Hub Manager? The 'Enable' button in the External Control section of the Nemesis window turns on the red control LED on the pedal. Nothing else in that section seems to have any effect.

I set up 2 test scenes with different engines loaded in the Nemesis.

Test 1 has a digital engine. I used the hardware procedure to map the EXP to the Time knob. It changes the delay time as expected. I hit the 'Read from Pedal' button and the External Control selectors changed to 'Mapped to knobs' and 'Hub X'. I hit 'Save and close' and then saved the scene.
Test 2 has a tape engine and I mapped the EXP to the Mix knob. It changes the mix as expected. I used the Hub Manager to update and save with the same results as the previous scene.

I changed scenes back to Test 1 and the EXP has no effect. Back to Test 2 and it has no effect.

Again, I can save a scene with the EXP on the Manta or OFD and recall it with no issues.

I haven't tried saving the Nemesis effect directly on the pedal with EXP mapped and then recalling via MIDI because I'm trying to simplify my MIDI commands to not overload the hub.

Currently, it's only possible to keep expression mappings done through the Nemesis' hardware. We should have the HUB Manager version running shortly.

 

[pbfrog]

Currently, it's only possible to keep expression mappings done through the Nemesis' hardware. We should have the HUB Manager version running shortly.

OK. Thanks for checking.

 

[bassmonkeee]

Silly question--can I use the 1/4" out of the Dual Expression Pedal with the control input of the Vertigo with the right trrs cable?

 

[rsmith601]

Silly question--can I use the 1/4" out of the Dual Expression Pedal with the control input of the Vertigo with the right trrs cable?

The Vertigo will work with an ordinary expression pedal so long as you have the right cable. In this case, the Dual EXP is acting like an ordinary expression pedal. Setting this up and calibrating is covered in the Vertigo manual.

 

[bruno40gr]

Finally got it to work with presets and all!
Also, didn't get a number.

 

[bassmonkeee]

The Vertigo will work with an ordinary expression pedal so long as you have the right cable. In this case, the Dual EXP is acting like an ordinary expression pedal. Setting this up and calibrating is covered in the Vertigo manual.

Thanks! That's what I thought. But, I figured I'd ask before spending money.

LOVE the update to the Neuro app, btw! Awesome.

 

[pbfrog]

@bruno40gr Nice setup with the MIDI and looper. What's the pedal in the lower left corner with the astronaut and the purple and orange buttons?

 

[bruno40gr]

@bruno40gr Nice setup with the MIDI and looper. What's the pedal in the lower left corner with the astronaut and the purple and orange buttons?

You mean lower right? Thats a Double parallel looper blender Brian from Saturnworks built for me. I have the You're Doom and the Future Impact blending there.

 

[pbfrog]

Heh. Left? Right?

Yes. It's a funky looking blender, that's for sure!