Has anyone figured out how to make Bluetooth work on this pedal? I returned the cheapie and got the Streambot MINI hoping that was the issue. Still nothing. Could use some help here. @rsmith601, weren't you going to post a video at some point?
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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3
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Has anyone figured out how to make Bluetooth work on this pedal? I returned the cheapie and got the Streambot MINI hoping that was the issue. Still nothing. Could use some help here. @rsmith601, weren't you going to post a video at some point?
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These are the two I’ve been told work well:
https://www.amazon.com/Mpow-Bluetoo...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583726541989701&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Blu...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583795260822810&psc=1
Disaster area I think had another one they found but I can’t remember the model.
https://www.amazon.com/Mpow-Bluetoo...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583726541989701&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Blu...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583795260822810&psc=1
Disaster area I think had another one they found but I can’t remember the model.
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The Mpow is the one I have.
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https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Blueto...r+home+stereo&qid=1568962921&s=gateway&sr=8-4
I believe this is the one they showed so I ordered one but have not tried it yet with my C4. Works great on my stereo so that is a win already, nice to turn it on for music again.
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To send Neuro app info via bluetooth from phone to C4. Connect the Bluetooth receiver to input 2 with the Neuro cable and pair. This started out as a workaround for folks whose phones that do not have audio jacks but the rest of us can benefit as well. Remember communication is one way on the phone app.
Surely that's why the wonderful Source Audio techie elves have given us the Ventris and Nemesis architecture? Two pretty amazing pedals that cover a huge reverb and delay needs. If SA say the One Series small box can't do suitable delay due to physical limitations of the hardware, then it's clear that their One Series bigger box was designed to fill that requirement. However...I do think that the market is lacking in 2 very specific areas at the moment. A really good modulation modeler, most are based on specific effect types and aren't unified into one box. The only two pedals that come to mind are the Zoom MS-70CDR and the Strymon Mobius (or even a Eventide H9). There's a lot of separate Chorus, Flanger, Rotary, phaser, vibrato etc pedals, but very few "one box solutions" to all of our Modulation needs.
The other is a top tier midi enabled compressor. There's lots of great compressors out there, certainly more than 5 years ago. The market is continually expanding, but there is a distinct hole for a midi enabled compressor modeler. With the rise of Midi controlled pedal boards, it's going to become a more pressing need (ho ho ho...could resist...sorry).
Anyone else encountering a problem with the app crashing if you try to edit a preset on iPhone and iPad?
Other than that I want to repeat myself by saying that this pedal is even more fun than I imagined. And I'm still only using the most basic (but to me absolutely vital) functions of envelope filter, octaver and basic waveshapes.
Other than that I want to repeat myself by saying that this pedal is even more fun than I imagined. And I'm still only using the most basic (but to me absolutely vital) functions of envelope filter, octaver and basic waveshapes.
I should add another key product: a programmable equalizer with more features than the actual programmable eq.
Boss has just released Eq-200: two channels available, but only 4 presets.
The Free The Tone PA-1QB seems to be better: one channel only and 99 presets. But is pricey (more than 300 euros in Italy).
One of my dreams is this: the One Series architecture will allow to realize a super programmable eq with two channels and both graphic and parametric available. With this architecture, the number of presets (6 on pedal and 128 with hub) will never be a problem!
I'll admit that's happened to me a few times. After my first time losing a preset I started doing screenshots of Neuro. Definitely a bummer when you feel like you're overcoming a learning curve and then lose the progress.
That's a good observation. I've given a lot of thought about my ideal EQ / Preamp over the years. My personal conclusion is that a static 7/10/12 band EQ isn't as flexible as it could be, although I love the ability to have 128 midi controllable pre-sets. Neither is a 3 band with variable mids. I've tended to run multiple EQ's on my board to cover various options. So I personally I would like to see a single small sized box that has three layers of EQ. A 7 to 12 band graphic EQ where each band is a narrow notch filter, A wide 3 band EQ where global bass / Treble / Mids can be easily controlled interdependently or combined with the Graphic EQ. Then a 3rd (and final layer) of adjustable output gain, DI , Low pass and High pass filters applied to control top end hiss and low end boom on it's way to the Mixing desk and / or amp. Maybe send and return loops between the three layers...opps....I've just given out my plans for the last word in EQ / Preamp ideas....
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Yeah, I have a save from earlier in the evening, but I did spend some considerable time from there trying to get things where I wanted them. Hopefully I can tackle it tonight with enough time to get it implemented on my board, otherwise it'll be another week before the sound gets used.
About the EQ, you guys are sort of describing the Aftershock's EQ capabilities. It just doesn't have graphic EQ and both channels follow a single set of Parametric EQ and Low/High pass filtering.
We are just day dreaming bud....an unlikely wish list in an EQ that's probably never going to happen unless one of us goes, designs, builds and markets one.
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So, I did grab a quick vid (mostly because it's easier to do than get an interface and do sound). I apologize for the upside down pedalboard but there's not other place to put my little phone tripod.
This is a patch I'm working on to 'replace' one that I use live. The first half is 'dry' then the second half is the same sound but how I use it, followed by chorus and a delay pitched with 5th and octave, so you can sort of get how I'll apply the tone. The bass is my stage bass, a Dingwall NG3 with a little bass boost applied at the preamp but the lo-mid/hi-mid set flat. Amp is my LM2 set flat into a basic Avatar SB112 (my home practice rig).
I've got some more work to do with it. The 'volume swell' is mostly dialed in but can use a bit more adjustment in both the speed and the sensitivity. The filter may need some tweaks in it's depth and resonance. I worked from a blank 'initialize bass' patch rather than another previously designed patch. It has expression set to filter frequency (done through the hub), and the frequency is maxed out at the top but pulled back in the lows to '40' so you don't swamp out in the deep stuff.
...and normally this is a sound that I traditionally volume swell into crossover so I have clean lows and the swept filter above but I don't think I can get the C4 to have that level of facility. I'll probably bring the second voice up clean under the filtered voice and match the swell in the second envelope and take that as good enough.
My traditional pedal signal path would look like:
Mooer Slow Engine Volume Swell -> Crossover pedal -> (highs to Frazz Dazzler v2 Fuzz->Xerograph Deluxe with Expression -> back out, combined with clean lows ->Polytope Chorus -> Timeline pitched delay -> HPF-> out.
I use a similar tone but without the chorus/pitched delay for another song so I'll clone this when I'm done and clean it up a bit for that.
Other thoughts: The distortion/delay types in the C4 are workable to feed the filters & use with the synths but they're not going to replace your exquisitely curated fuzz pedal on your pedal board.
None of the filter types' frequencies ranges go 'as high' as my Xerograph does. On that pedal I have my upper expression limit set to where it basically goes inaudible on my rig in the highs, while I maxed out the upper limit on the C4 and could have used a bit more. I pulled through all the distortion types to try to feed it more in that range to see if that would help and couldn't find any additional lovin' there...
This is a patch I'm working on to 'replace' one that I use live. The first half is 'dry' then the second half is the same sound but how I use it, followed by chorus and a delay pitched with 5th and octave, so you can sort of get how I'll apply the tone. The bass is my stage bass, a Dingwall NG3 with a little bass boost applied at the preamp but the lo-mid/hi-mid set flat. Amp is my LM2 set flat into a basic Avatar SB112 (my home practice rig).
I've got some more work to do with it. The 'volume swell' is mostly dialed in but can use a bit more adjustment in both the speed and the sensitivity. The filter may need some tweaks in it's depth and resonance. I worked from a blank 'initialize bass' patch rather than another previously designed patch. It has expression set to filter frequency (done through the hub), and the frequency is maxed out at the top but pulled back in the lows to '40' so you don't swamp out in the deep stuff.
...and normally this is a sound that I traditionally volume swell into crossover so I have clean lows and the swept filter above but I don't think I can get the C4 to have that level of facility. I'll probably bring the second voice up clean under the filtered voice and match the swell in the second envelope and take that as good enough.
My traditional pedal signal path would look like:
Mooer Slow Engine Volume Swell -> Crossover pedal -> (highs to Frazz Dazzler v2 Fuzz->Xerograph Deluxe with Expression -> back out, combined with clean lows ->Polytope Chorus -> Timeline pitched delay -> HPF-> out.
I use a similar tone but without the chorus/pitched delay for another song so I'll clone this when I'm done and clean it up a bit for that.
Other thoughts: The distortion/delay types in the C4 are workable to feed the filters & use with the synths but they're not going to replace your exquisitely curated fuzz pedal on your pedal board.
None of the filter types' frequencies ranges go 'as high' as my Xerograph does. On that pedal I have my upper expression limit set to where it basically goes inaudible on my rig in the highs, while I maxed out the upper limit on the C4 and could have used a bit more. I pulled through all the distortion types to try to feed it more in that range to see if that would help and couldn't find any additional lovin' there...
Sweet...I've just got a stock notification from GAK that they have stock again....one click later...my new shiny SA C4 arrives on Monday...super thrilled!
Well, I went for it and ordered a Morningstar MC6 Mkii. Might end up being more than I'll ever need but I'll either be future-proofed for more MIDI pedals or flip it to a lucky duck.
Now to learn how to use all of this gear... guess the Hub is going on the board now!
Now to learn how to use all of this gear... guess the Hub is going on the board now!
NicJimBass
Flossin'? I thought your name was Munson!
The manual for the MC6 is very, very useful, and Morningstar has a forum and blog that have both answered questions I had.
Understand that it is basically a totally blank canvas, and that whatever you tell it to do, it will do. But you HAVE to tell it to do everything you want. Like, just because you tell it to engage a toggle that will flip flop a setting on one press, doesn't mean that it will do the opposite on a second press... You have to program that as well. Once that becomes obvious, and once you get a handle on what all the available midi commands do, it becomes an extremely useful, flexible tool that, for me, had become invaluable in a very short about of time. I've got all my basic needs met, and a few trickier needs also taken care of. Just spend time with it, and learn it, and it will become indispensable.
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