Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[sunbeast]

Is it set to cc93, and to the midi channel the C4 is on? Alternatively, you can set it to midi clock and then just enable clock in the C4 presets you want synced. No midi channel or cc programming required then.

I didn’t think the DMC Micro had the MIDI clock capabilities? I know the larger DMCs do, but from my reading the Micro didn’t

 

[Gibs210]

I didn’t think the DMC Micro had the MIDI clock capabilities? I know the larger DMCs do, but from my reading the Micro didn’t

It was a later update, somewhere between initial release and 2.0 (micro pro) update. To be clear, the older dmc micros can do everything the pro can do with the update, short of some preset naming capabilities and a fancier screen.

 

[sunbeast]

It was a later update, somewhere between initial release and 2.0 (micro pro) update. To be clear, the older dmc micros can do everything the pro can do with the update, short of some preset naming capabilities and a fancier screen.

Nice! In that case I would agree with you that it makes more sense to send clock than tap tempo. When I was looking at DMC controllers only the larger ones had the clock option.

 

[AxelF]

Thanks for the replies, Gibs has come to the rescue as always and has somehow managed to explain in terms that even I can understand how to setup the tap tempo so it reaches the pedal through the hub. He said as you also mention Sunbeast, that clock would be the better way of doing it though, but I have no idea what that is or why it would be better. My idea is to tap along with the brief drum/keys intro to make sure it modulates in time, can I do the same but better somehow with midi clock? The drummer doesn't use a click so the tempo will vary each time we play it.

 

[Gibs210]

Thanks for the replies, Gibs has come to the rescue as always and has somehow managed to explain in terms that even I can understand how to setup the tap tempo so it reaches the pedal through the hub. He said as you also mention Sunbeast, that clock would be the better way of doing it though, but I have no idea what that is or why it would be better. My idea is to tap along with the brief drum/keys intro to make sure it modulates in time, can I do the same but better somehow with midi clock? The drummer doesn't use a click so the tempo will vary each time we play it.

You can save the tempo in P mode on the dmc, so that it matches the tempo for the song, but if the drummer does t use a metronome, or doesn’t have unbelievably good sense of timing down to a BPM, then that’s a moot point. However you can still tap in the tempo with midi clock, clock will continually update the tempo to keep in time and deal with any time deviations that can develop over time, but again, if your not using a click, it’s a little les important, so you’ll still be tapping in if it seems to be getting offbeat.

 

[AxelF]

That's great thanks - really appreciate your help getting this set up!

 

[GMC]

Just out of curiosity... What's your favourite?

That's a tough question to answer. I have owned an Aftershock for a long time and it's earned a trusted place on my pedal board. I love it's bright orange-ness case...especially with silver after market knobs! I love it's easy dial in and it has enough Neuro customisation to make it very relevant today. There's so many great distortion engines in it and it's really easy to mod a muff, rat, OD (best OD's ever). The EQ is excellent and the knob assignments are pretty much all you could want in a generalised bass dirt pedal. With every pre-set, I like to set the mix knob to bass shelving and the treble control to treble shelving. That way I get Bass & Treble on all of my patches. The only thing it doesn't do well is the 2 diode spluttery gated fuzz (Titan II / Mammoth). For a long time I ran an Aftershock and Mastortron combo as my 2 pedal dirt solution. I could do EVERYthing with those two pedals.
The Ultrawave is a lot more sophisticated. It nails the gated fuzz easily and a lot more. It's like building a dirt patch from the building blocks of a circuit diagram, without the hassle of etching or digging out a soldering iron. Sure, it's a long way from choosing which diode or op-amp, but with the compressor, 8 band EQ and 3 band tones knobs...it can be dialled in. That's before the multiband split options.
I'm slowly mapping / recreating my fav Aftershock patches on my Ultrawave. Once i've got my Aftershock patches mapped on my Ultrawave, it's probably time for me to let my Aftershock go. I've got my OD and Muff and I'm nearly ready with my RAT patch. But it's going to be difficult to let the aftershock go after so long. It's a pedal I really like and I have a lot of history with it. The Ultrwave isn't so easy to dial in a patch due to it's wild and fuzzy nature...however, those light tones are all in there...they just have to be discovered and made into patches.
In a few months time it will probably come off my board and make way for either a Collider or a Ventris verb.

 

[Billyears IV]

I'm slowly mapping / recreating my fav Aftershock patches on my Ultrawave. Once i've got my Aftershock patches mapped on my Ultrawave

might you kindly be posting these to the community.....? Please? extra please? (He asked nicely / pleadingly.....)

I've enjoyed your recent Bass OD and others.

I'd buy you (cold) beers but you're not local to me !

Thanks !

 

[Laklandfan]

For something like a Spectrum; In a live setting, other than the mini-toggle is there a way to switch between 2 settings using the footswitch?

 

[Gibs210]

For something like a Spectrum; In a live setting, other than the mini-toggle is there a way to switch between 2 settings using the footswitch?

Hold down the footswitch (preferably set t to quick preset change mode) to go from the same toggle position but from the red to green banks. Bout the simplest cheapest way before getting into midi. Then a disaster area midi baby or dmc micro (micro will be the easiest to setup, midi baby would take a lot of customized programming).

 

[moley6knipe]

SA Aftershock. I’m looking forward to getting this baby this week! What do you people in TB land think of my choice? Will it cover what I want? And is this priced fairly for a top notch product? It does seem pricey, but I don’t mind that too much if the sounds make me happy! Thanks for any input on this unit.

Aftershock is brilliant, good choice. I’m not much of a tweaker but I don’t mind a bit of time in the editor… so AS is just the right level for me vs something like the Ultrawave.

I need: tube drive, Rat(ish) and Muff, so the AS has me covered. And the tube drive is EXACTLY what I’ve had in my head for years. Nickel strings, 1mm pick, neck humbucker, AS tube drive. Man alive! At the last gig I was desperate for the three chord 1/8 note songs so I could just downstroke that SOUND!!

And it’s gold obvs

 

[jaysbass2002]

Dual switch pedal recommendations for Soleman to switch panels?

 

[lbanks]

I have a question, Can I use my One Spot to power my pedals? Switch the C4 with the Spectrum and that is how I usually setup. If I can use my One Spot to power these, it would relieve a big mess of wire. And where can a fella get a number around here?

 

[Gibs210]

I have a question, Can I use my One Spot to power my pedals? Switch the C4 with the Spectrum and that is how I usually setup. If I can use my One Spot to power these, it would relieve a big mess of wire. And where can a fella get a number around here?View attachment 4747641

It’ll power it, whether or not it will be clean and noise free is another question that I can’t say for certain one way or another.

 

[lbanks]

Hmmm, noise bad...

 

[bassbrad]

I have a question, Can I use my One Spot to power my pedals? Switch the C4 with the Spectrum and that is how I usually setup. If I can use my One Spot to power these, it would relieve a big mess of wire. And where can a fella get a number around here?View attachment 4747641

I have a question, Can I use my One Spot to power my pedals? Switch the C4 with the Spectrum and that is how I usually setup. If I can use my One Spot to power these, it would relieve a big mess of wire. And where can a fella get a number around here?View attachment 4747641

@lbanks I power all of this board with a 1Spot and daisy chains plus an [sfx]mThumpinator and SA Neuro Hub underneath with no power lag or noise issues. Yes even with a dreaded EHX and Zoom onboard. Of course YMMV.

 

[Ewo]

A One Spot worked fine for me for a good while, but when I added a fuzz (not a Source Audio pedal) I started getting some 60 cycle hum. That was the fuzz I wanted to use, so I switched to an isolated power supply, and the noise was gone.

So my takeaway is that the One Spot is value-priced and works for some combinations of pedals--but not others. If it works for your personal assortment of pedals, great! It's an inexpensive experiment to try. But if you get noise, ya gotta pony up for an isolated supply.

 

[GMC]

might you kindly be posting these to the community.....? Please? extra please? (He asked nicely / pleadingly.....)

I've enjoyed your recent Bass OD and others.

I'd buy you (cold) beers but you're not local to me !

Thanks !

If course! That's one of the reasons I love Source Audio, it's the community sharing.

 

[Billyears IV]

If course! That's one of the reasons I love Source Audio, it's the community sharing.

Excellent, look fwd to trying some of those. Thanks.

I'm building up a palette of simple ODs. Not full blown distortions just more tonal subtleties.
Find there's substantial differences in how they sound, depending on what amp/ cab sim I use on boss gt-1b.
I could keep it simple and not combine the gt-1b but some combinations are SO damn good!!

 

[lbanks]

@lbanks I power all of this board with a 1Spot and daisy chains plus an [sfx]mThumpinator and SA Neuro Hub underneath with no power lag or noise issues. Yes even with a dreaded EHX and Zoom onboard. Of course YMMV.
View attachment 4747707

A One Spot worked fine for me for a good while, but when I added a fuzz (not a Source Audio pedal) I started getting some 60 cycle hum. That was the fuzz I wanted to use, so I switched to an isolated power supply, and the noise was gone.

So my takeaway is that the One Spot is value-priced and works for some combinations of pedals--but not others. If it works for your personal assortment of pedals, great! It's an inexpensive experiment to try. But if you get noise, ya gotta pony up for an isolated supply.

I guess I just have to try it and find out. Just wanted to make sure I didn't screw something up. Thanks for the replies.