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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#13,662
Adamixoye said:
I've been slowly converting my setup to WIDI bluetooth devices for my MIDI needs. I don't use the Hub much, but I also have a Hot Hand 3 (HH3). So my ideal was:
  • WIDI device connected to the Hub
  • MIDI in --> Hub for scene and other control, connected to my Aftershock by TRRS
  • Hub --> MIDI out to output the expression and/or HH3 signals by MIDI
  • WIDI device connected to something that will take care of all the routing
  • If MIDI in/out works over USB, I could do it with a WIDI UHost connected to the USB port. If not, then I could use a WIDI Jack over the regular 5-pin ports.
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NPappas said:
fyi a new Hub is very unlikely as the new, mysterious upcoming hardware platform will erase the need for a Hub (though, will likely still support the existing one, which will in turn still support the One Series!)
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Any chance I could still get answers to the above?
 
#13,664
Midi expression through requires setting the hub to midi out and not through, then you can set midi CCs in the neuro app in the global settings. 1 for expression, 1 for y axis and one for x axis on the hot hand jack. So if your willing to loose midi control, or use a merge box to go around the hub, that’s how midi expression works from the hub. A midi controller is probably a better solution though. This was dreamed up for the hub long before one series and soleman. I would think usb midi would be no directional, but not sure how easy it is to implement. My knowledge with midi is mostly in the hardware/pedalboard realm. Usb midi I know opens up a can of worms in a lot of situations.
 
#13,665
NPappas said:
Sorry, I don't know enough about WIDI to answer this at this time. It's not something we officially support, but some users have had success with it.
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We’ve used the WIDI jack, but none of us have gotten our hands on the uhost yet to know if it will work or not with our devices, I’m curious if it would work with the mobile app and one series to be honest.
 
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#13,666
Gibs210 said:
Midi expression through requires setting the hub to midi out and not through, then you can set midi CCs in the neuro app in the global settings. 1 for expression, 1 for y axis and one for x axis on the hot hand jack. So if your willing to loose midi control, or use a merge box to go around the hub, that’s how midi expression works from the hub. A midi controller is probably a better solution though. This was dreamed up for the hub long before one series and soleman. I would think usb midi would be no directional, but not sure how easy it is to implement. My knowledge with midi is mostly in the hardware/pedalboard realm. Usb midi I know opens up a can of worms in a lot of situations.
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Yes, I would have it set to Out and not Thru, that would not be a problem for my wiring. The Hub would get what it needs, pass it to the Aftershock, then output its own MIDI to to the out which gets wired back to where I need it.

Now the question is whether I can get it to work with the UHost or not.
 
#13,669
Adamixoye said:
Do you get 2-way MIDI over USB using the UHost?
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I only tried it once because I ended up using the Widi the the hub

gonna test again and let you know


By the way , if anyone can help

what the Midi message to get a specific preset on the C4

I’ve tried sending out PC with number but nothings happening

Once I figure that out , I think I’m gonna use the Uhost and take the hub off my board
 
#13,670
ilansgroove said:
I only tried it once because I ended up using the Widi the the hub

gonna test again and let you know


By the way , if anyone can help

what the Midi message to get a specific preset on the C4

I’ve tried sending out PC with number but nothings happening

Once I figure that out , I think I’m gonna use the Uhost and take the hub off my board
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If you are directly connected to the C4 you should be able to use PCs. If you are going through the Hub you will need to use CC104 (default MIDI map is in the manual).
 
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#13,674
Gibs210 said:
Currently you can’t, it’s an older design before midi usb became a possible control point for a lot of pedals with hardware controllers. The new dongle is the only way to access presets on the older pedals.
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That’s funny Cause I tested it with the WIDI Uhost and all the midi control works , the only thing I couldn’t figure out is the preset recall
 
#13,675
ilansgroove said:
That’s funny Cause I tested it with the WIDI Uhost and all the midi control works , the only thing I couldn’t figure out is the preset recall
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Midi cc works, but PC was never integrated as we figured the neuro hub would be the primary means of midi control, so no need to access the presets by midi, since PC messages were never meant for the hub to pass on.
 
#13,676
NPappas said:
fyi a new Hub is very unlikely as the new, mysterious upcoming hardware platform will erase the need for a Hub (though, will likely still support the existing one, which will in turn still support the One Series!)
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Wait... what?

I just got this spaghetti bowl all plugged in! 20221019_162909.jpg

And the Atlas should be here tomorrow...
 
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Welp... now my Aftershock is doing something funky. Like all kinds of funky. Already tried a factory reset and it's still happening so I thought I'd see if anyone else had this issue. Maybe I'm missing a setting or something.. :cautious:

All of a sudden I am unable to keep Preset Mode enabled. When I'm working on the desktop app I'll save a preset, move to a different preset, try to go back to the other preset and it will *sometimes* be what I just saved; OR it will reflect what the knobs are doing. I never know which it will be.

If I save a preset to the pedal using the app - even with preset mode enabled - when i disconnect the pedal, the pedal goes out of preset mode and I get what the knobs are doing. None of my presets sound like what was saved. Nothing will keep the preset mode enabled. The app also will put the asterisk next to the preset when I select one, like I've made changes to the preset even though I did nothing to it.

I was super stoked on the Low OD preset I found and was bummed I had to substitute something on the UW for my audition the other night. It sounded fine, but I really want that Low OD on the Aftershock to work.. :)

User error or...?
 
#13,679
gustobassman said:
Welp... now my Aftershock is doing something funky. Like all kinds of funky. Already tried a factory reset and it's still happening so I thought I'd see if anyone else had this issue. Maybe I'm missing a setting or something.. :cautious:

All of a sudden I am unable to keep Preset Mode enabled. When I'm working on the desktop app I'll save a preset, move to a different preset, try to go back to the other preset and it will *sometimes* be what I just saved; OR it will reflect what the knobs are doing. I never know which it will be.

If I save a preset to the pedal using the app - even with preset mode enabled - when i disconnect the pedal, the pedal goes out of preset mode and I get what the knobs are doing. None of my presets sound like what was saved. Nothing will keep the preset mode enabled. The app also will put the asterisk next to the preset when I select one, like I've made changes to the preset even though I did nothing to it.

I was super stoked on the Low OD preset I found and was bummed I had to substitute something on the UW for my audition the other night. It sounded fine, but I really want that Low OD on the Aftershock to work.. :)

User error or...?
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Did you underpower it at any point? Power starving does crazy stuff to digital pedals. Try a factory reset.
 
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#13,680
Quatschmacher said:
Did you underpower it at any point? Power starving does crazy stuff to digital pedals. Try a factory reset.
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Yup third sentence.. "Already tried a factory reset and it's still happening...." :D - thank you for the suggestion though!

I contacted tech support a couple of days ago, my first thought was doing the reset and he agreed. No luck with that though.. :eyebrow:

That's why I posted the issue here, in case it happened to someone else and they maybe had a different suggestion/solution.

I'll try the reset again anyway.. can't hurt :)
 

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