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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#14,061
PhatBottomBass1 said:
I have no problem with anyone spending their time as they wish. However, there is more than one way to skin a cat and just because there are 127 slots doesn't motivate me to fill at least 126 of them! :roflmao:
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I agree, but the main reason I bought into SA is the capabilities of the pedals, and i want to understand all of it,even though I know I don't have to. Like I said I have two analog board that sound great, and are better with my passive basses. These pedals work well with my active and hi output basses. We're agreeing on the same thing just different sides of the same coin;)
 
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#14,063
odarellmc said:
Ok thanks.yes I'm thinking the hub will give you full access to all pedals but I see it does not.
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This is the reason I have a large USB hub on my Source Audio board.
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#14,065
Les Fret said:
Those pictures made me think:
It would be great if SA would make a digital multi fx pedal. With say 5 of their pedals combined and with a lot of presets etc. Something like the Line 6 stuff or the Boss GT1000 etc. What do you think?
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I think that’s a saturated market that starts needing digital screens on the pedals and a user interface
Individual best in class pedals with the knobs they want and midi seems to work well for integrating on other peoples boards.
Judging by this thread, where there might be space is some kind of idiot proof midi switcher for controlling them all. (They may already have done this)
 
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Luke the Fluke said:
I think that’s a saturated market that starts needing digital screens on the pedals and a user interface
Individual best in class pedals with the knobs they want and midi seems to work well for integrating on other peoples boards.
Judging by this thread, where there might be space is some kind of idiot proof midi switcher for controlling them all. (They may already have done this)
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From reading old Source Audio docs...they kind of wanted to move away from digital displays. It's the complete opposite of what Eventide was trying to achieve with their H9. One box...every concievable model / patch / effect....big turney knob....zero controls and a big LED display. The H9 was Eventide's attempt to combine all of their larger panels into a single box, with almost zero live control as a consequence. Where as in Source Audio land...I get lots of seperate boxes, twiddly knobs and no LED displays. With lots and lots of Live control.
 
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#14,068
odarellmc said:
Ok I'm getting what everyone means by the older series one pedals. In my case the lunar, aftershock and spectrum are the older ones only capable of storing 6 presets. The newer ultra wave, c4 and Atlas can store 128 presets which you can only access with a midi controller. I'm getting this....
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Spectrum has 128 presets.
 
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odarellmc said:
Ok I'm getting what everyone means by the older series one pedals. In my case the lunar, aftershock and spectrum are the older ones only capable of storing 6 presets. The newer ultra wave, c4 and Atlas can store 128 presets which you can only access with a midi controller. I'm getting this....
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odarellmc said:
Ok thanks.yes I'm thinking the hub will give you full access to all pedals but I see it does not.
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Exactly what I was trying to describe- the Hub Scene can store all of the settings of connected pedals, but not recall their internal presets at all. So you need to recall the preset independently on the C4 (you don’t need MIDI for this, you can also do so on the Neuro App) then save it into a scene on the Hub, or alternatively just use the Hub as a middleman and directly recall the C4 preset using a MIDI controller to send the correct CC message. The Hub was designed when the older pedals without internal presets were made, and gave those pedals a form of shared preset ability (in the form of “scenes”) while the modern pedals do have their own preset ability but can also use the old “scene” technology. For my uses it makes more sense to just recall the presets of the modern pedals using MIDI CC messages though, since I need a MIDI controller anyway and can then skip the step of creating “scenes”
 
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Les Fret said:
Those pictures made me think:
It would be great if SA would make a digital multi fx pedal. With say 5 of their pedals combined and with a lot of presets etc. Something like the Line 6 stuff or the Boss GT1000 etc. What do you think?
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Luke the Fluke said:
I think that’s a saturated market that starts needing digital screens on the pedals and a user interface
Individual best in class pedals with the knobs they want and midi seems to work well for integrating on other peoples boards.
Judging by this thread, where there might be space is some kind of idiot proof midi switcher for controlling them all. (They may already have done this)
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Exactly- a MIDI switcher that could interface directly with all of the modern SA pedals and allow a single integrated connection to the Neuro App for mass editing would make them actually feel like a customizable modular unit. You can kinda do some of that using the mobile Neuro app and patching all the Input/Output 2s together with TRS cables, but it only allows one-way communication which is limiting
 
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Ok now I've watched neuro vids, still not sure on how the save presets. I wish you could just save it to a slot but it seems you have to name it ( why when it already has a name) the process at this point seems very counter intuitive. I'm just not getting it. Would a save to preset option in preset work better?
 
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GMC said:
From reading old Source Audio docs...they kind of wanted to move away from digital displays. It's the complete opposite of what Eventide was trying to achieve with their H9. One box...every concievable model / patch / effect....big turney knob....zero controls and a big LED display. The H9 was Eventide's attempt to combine all of their larger panels into a single box, with almost zero live control as a consequence. Where as in Source Audio land...I get lots of seperate boxes, twiddly knobs and no LED displays. With lots and lots of Live control.
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Yes I have the H9 too. I like it. It doesn't necessarily have to besomething with a digital display though. You could also have something like the Tech 21 Fly Rig where they have mutliple pedals combined in one board, each with its own knobs. Image that with 4 or 5 SA pedals, like Spectrum, Ultra wave or Atlas, or a delay or chorus.
Fly Rig – Tech 21 NYC
 
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odarellmc said:
Ok now I've watched neuro vids, still not sure on how the save presets. I wish you could just save it to a slot but it seems you have to name it ( why when it already has a name) the process at this point seems very counter intuitive. I'm just not getting it. Would a save to preset option in preset work better?
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You save it to a slot, and give it a name so you have a bit more info than just a number. You should just press “Save As”, pick a slot, give it a name.
 
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I think the SA One Series pedals give the best feel for basic "old school" surface control, extensive fully customizable interoperability (i.e. OD/Dist/Fuzz) and availability of on the fly deep editing @ +/- $199.99 per pedal that sound fantastic with as nuts as you want to go midi control.

I personally really like the scene environment capabilities with five SA pedals for recall.
 
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Les Fret said:
Yes I have the H9 too. I like it. It doesn't necessarily have to besomething with a digital display though. You could also have something like the Tech 21 Fly Rig where they have mutliple pedals combined in one board, each with its own knobs. Image that with 4 or 5 SA pedals, like Spectrum, Ultra wave or Atlas, or a delay or chorus.
Fly Rig – Tech 21 NYC
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I don't think it's released yet but the Midium controller looks like it would be a good match with a bunch of SA pedals. Link Removed I am certainly intrigued by it.
 
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