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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

Is there any love still for the old "Soundblox Pro" Pedals? I have pulled two of these, the Multiwave Bass Distortion and the Bass Envelope Filter out of the closet and dont quite know what to do with them. The sounds these things create are crazy, but way over the top for what I do realistically...
The Multiwave has some epic distortion tones. Normal options as well as more synth-like. The BEF is one of the best envelope filter pedals ever created. The funky housing limited the success of both of these pedals. Sound-wise, they are excellent!
 
Is there any love still for the old "Soundblox Pro" Pedals? I have pulled two of these, the Multiwave Bass Distortion and the Bass Envelope Filter out of the closet and dont quite know what to do with them. The sounds these things create are crazy, but way over the top for what I do realistically...
The recent interview Rick Beato did with bassist Mohini Dey showed her pedalboard with a Soundblox filter on it. I’m sure there are plenty of people still using them!
 
Gotta do a quick fan boy drop in...

I recently picked up a used Reflex and it arrived with a damaged USB port. A couple of emails back and forth with SA, I shipped it out to them and they had it back to me in about a week, fixed free of charge, years out of warranty and discontinued, bought second hand... There was was literally no reason why they should have worked on it, let alone paid to ship it back to me.

That's why I have supported this company since the OG Soundblox days and will continue to do so.
 
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This is probably mentioned already but I’m looking patches for the C4 that sound like Madonna’s Lucky Star and Holiday, basically any bass synth sound on the immaculate collection album.
Fairly certain most of the bass on her first album was a Minimoog (is listed as “Moog bass”, so could also be modular).
 
The Multiwave has some epic distortion tones. Normal options as well as more synth-like. The BEF is one of the best envelope filter pedals ever created. The funky housing limited the success of both of these pedals. Sound-wise, they are excellent!
I have owned dozens of envelope filters and sold them all. From EBS to Mutron. The one I kept happened to be the original BEF. Let it go when I got the Spectrum but wish I had kept it. Never thought I'd seriously consider a digital envelope filter yet the BEF made a believer out of me. Source Audio nailed the most important feature-the sound. I wouldnt have turned it loose but the king of all filter pedals came along and it just happens to also be a Source Audio creation. Dont get me raving about a certain EQ pedal as well. Think I might name my firstborn "Source Audio"
 
Hey,
I am looking at an Aftershock and I thought I read somewhere, but can't find it, that it had a voltage doubler. Takes 9v to power it but plays at 18v? Is that right? Or is it not needed for headroom because it's digital?

Thanks! Phin
There’s no benefit to overvolting a digital pedal, and it will cause damage pretty quickly. Never run more than 9v to a one series pedal.
 
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I have owned dozens of envelope filters and sold them all. From EBS to Mutron. The one I kept happened to be the original BEF. Let it go when I got the Spectrum but wish I had kept it. Never thought I'd seriously consider a digital envelope filter yet the BEF made a believer out of me. Source Audio nailed the most important feature-the sound. I wouldnt have turned it loose but the king of all filter pedals came along and it just happens to also be a Source Audio creation. Dont get me raving about a certain EQ pedal as well. Think I might name my firstborn "Source Audio"
Comment shared with the entire SA team. :)
 
Been thoroughly enjoying a recent pedalboard build featuring 3 SA pedals, and thought I'd drop a quick line on one small nuance that may get glossed over in all of the admiring and enjoyment of the versatility and value that Source Audio products bring, and that's their sound quality compared to their analog counterparts.

It's really really good. lol

For obvious reasons, the majority of value, appreciation, and praise that the Source stuff brings is because their is so much crammed inside these devices, and for a pretty minimal investment, players can access some deep deep levels of customization to achieve the sounds they want. I've owned at one time or another almost every ONE series pedal, and right now have settled on Atlas, C4, and Aftershock. Between those three, for my needs, I can't think of many sounds not attainable.

To me it's worth mentioning though, that some of even the simple presets on these devices equal or best their analog competition to which they are often compared. And for way less than what it would cost to achieve the same thing in analog world. For example, some of the most basic octave presets on the C4 to my ears, track, feel, and sound better than most octave pedals I've encountered. To me, that makes the C4 worth it on it's own, before ever getting into the Neuro editor or maxing out crazy combo sounds of which it's capable. Same comment applies to the VCA preset on the Atlas compared to some very boutique-y analog comps, and the distortion sounds on the Aftershock.

All that to say, that a $230 investment into an Atlas that compares very well to a Cali76 or Becos, both of which cost way more, makes it a no brainer. Same for the C4 compared to some of the 3Leaf offerings.

The mountains of icing on the cake that is the expandability, customizability, and versatility of these guys is really awesome. So ya know, keep it up SA - lots of appreciation and recognition for the work that's gone into these units.
 
Been thoroughly enjoying a recent pedalboard build featuring 3 SA pedals, and thought I'd drop a quick line on one small nuance that may get glossed over in all of the admiring and enjoyment of the versatility and value that Source Audio products bring, and that's their sound quality compared to their analog counterparts.

It's really really good. lol

For obvious reasons, the majority of value, appreciation, and praise that the Source stuff brings is because their is so much crammed inside these devices, and for a pretty minimal investment, players can access some deep deep levels of customization to achieve the sounds they want. I've owned at one time or another almost every ONE series pedal, and right now have settled on Atlas, C4, and Aftershock. Between those three, for my needs, I can't think of many sounds not attainable.

To me it's worth mentioning though, that some of even the simple presets on these devices equal or best their analog competition to which they are often compared. And for way less than what it would cost to achieve the same thing in analog world. For example, some of the most basic octave presets on the C4 to my ears, track, feel, and sound better than most octave pedals I've encountered. To me, that makes the C4 worth it on it's own, before ever getting into the Neuro editor or maxing out crazy combo sounds of which it's capable. Same comment applies to the VCA preset on the Atlas compared to some very boutique-y analog comps, and the distortion sounds on the Aftershock.

All that to say, that a $230 investment into an Atlas that compares very well to a Cali76 or Becos, both of which cost way more, makes it a no brainer. Same for the C4 compared to some of the 3Leaf offerings.

The mountains of icing on the cake that is the expandability, customizability, and versatility of these guys is really awesome. So ya know, keep it up SA - lots of appreciation and recognition for the work that's gone into these units.
Thanks, Joe! Sharing with the team. :)

Most people don't believe that it is possible to achieve what you are describing. But, we put huge effort into the final sound design. Especially Atlas.
 
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Thanks, Joe! Sharing with the team. :)

Most people don't believe that it is possible to achieve what you are describing. But, we put huge effort into the final sound design. Especially Atlas.

I suppose a much more abbreviated version of my post would be, the source one series pedals are not just ‘good for digital;’ they are good period. :)
 
Is anyone experiencing issues connecting to the neuro app on android? Both my C4 and Ultrawave won't connect, and I've tried different cables and adapters. Handset is a Samsung S23 Ultra... all apps up to date etc and it has worked previously . Neuro just doesn't acknowledge the connection.
 
Is anyone experiencing issues connecting to the neuro app on android? Both my C4 and Ultrawave won't connect, and I've tried different cables and adapters. Handset is a Samsung S23 Ultra... all apps up to date etc and it has worked previously . Neuro just doesn't acknowledge the connection.

You should be getting a popup from android about allowing it to connect. You may have to plug in and out a few times. It just comes up briefly before it disappears. You need to do it everytime too. It has something to do with how it is accessing the USB. You do need an OTG adapter too.

I don't use it with Android much so I can't remember if you need to have the app open when you plugin or not.

Hopefully with Neuro 3 it will work better with Android.
 
You should be getting a popup from android about allowing it to connect. You may have to plug in and out a few times. It just comes up briefly before it disappears. You need to do it everytime too. It has something to do with how it is accessing the USB. You do need an OTG adapter too.

I don't use it with Android much so I can't remember if you need to have the app open when you plugin or not.

Hopefully with Neuro 3 it will work better with Android.
Thanks for the advice. I'll keep an eye out for that pop up, although I didn't notice it last night.

I've noticed in the developer settings there's a USB default option for midi. I'll see if that gives me any joy too...
 
I have a boss ir200 on the way that I managed to pick up cheaper than I could resell it for. Current band needs a good svt tone and a good straight clean tone for most songs so figure it's built in amps may do the trick for what's probably looking like ampless stages.

But I still want my c4 and ultrawave in there. I figure I can use them in the fx loop by going mono into the c4 then stereo through the ultrawave back into the ir200's stereo return.

I mainly use the ultrawave for a dualcomp type setting for the pick songs and a few different distortions. Does it make sense to put that in the loop or should I forget the stereo stuff and just run it in front?

Any ideas?