Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[rsmith601]

Seems overkill to buy the Artifakt just for the ladder filter, but I might just do that. Maybe I can use the vinyl effect somewhere in my band...

Has the USB-C connection issue been revolved? I remember reading about that somewhere. I use Neuro3 on my iPhone and MacBook Air, both USC-C.

Yes! Fixed.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

"Seems overkill to buy the Artifakt just for the ladder filter, but I might just do that. Maybe I can use the vinyl effect somewhere in my band..."

I did some more thinking about the flavors, I/O and Bass specific applications.

There could be some traction in the idea of a standalone effects pedal:

It could be run IN to #1 and then OUT and back into #2 and OUT from there. (channels unlinked)

OR

I think that having it UPFRONT (on my chain) IN on #1 channel (wet) to the UltraWave Bass #1 and either (a) back into Artifakt #2 channel from UltraWave Bass then to #1 channel on C4 OR (b) put Artifakt #2 channel after C4 #1 channel OUT and into Nemesis ADT #1 channel (*FREEZE/HOLD) OR (c) Artifakt #2 channel into the C4 #2 channel effects loop WITH, BUT BEFORE the Nemesis ADT #2 channel OR (d) Artifact #2 channel at the end after Nemesis ADT #1 channel. (channels unlinked)

*Freeze/Hold is only operational by footswitch control AND effects BOTH and ONLY the delay line(s) not the Analog Dry Through and cannot be stored as a scene on the HUB in freeze mode.

Again, another total HUB operation benefit...

 

[LowWay]

Seems like overkill, but not if you are a filter addict. It's a great EF.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Seems like overkill, but not if you are a filter addict. It's a great EF.

I just ordered one. Think I can use the vinyl effect in my band too, for an intro.

 

[tonym]

I just ordered one. Think I can use the vinyl effect in my band too, for an intro.

The Tape effect is runner-up to the Ladder on this pedal for me. Fantastic chorus and flange sounds - actually replaced my SA Gemini for my use.

 

[Gibs210]

Seems overkill to buy the Artifakt just for the ladder filter, but I might just do that. Maybe I can use the vinyl effect somewhere in my band...

Has the USB-C connection issue been revolved? I remember reading about that somewhere. I use Neuro3 on my iPhone and MacBook Air, both USC-C.

Yes. We caught that issue early on. That's not to say that there isn't one sitting on a shelf in a mom and pop store that still has this issue. But all new stock has long resolved this issue.

 

[_Tay_]

I just ordered one. Think I can use the vinyl effect in my band too, for an intro.

It also has a killer bit crusher section that can make some ace OD style sounds with the filter engaged too.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

I knew if I hung out here for too long and really put some braincells in on it that I would want to have it on my board, as well.

All Hail ARTIFAKT!

 

[bassbrad]

So here's a question:

Where would having the Artifakt in this signal chain be best as a Bass player...?

UltraWave Bass
C4
Nemesis ADT

I noticed that Artifact has none of the more flexible routing functions, it's basically I/O.

I think I'll keep listening to it, but I think the guitar or other instruments could benefit more substantially than Bass, but it does have some real good Bass game, too. It's a matter of how much game do I really think that I would get?

Before the Nemesis, IMO that way you can process sounds from the UW and C4, use alone and then send it to the final pedal for further processing.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

Before the Nemesis, IMO that way you can process sounds from the UW and C4, use alone and then send it to the final pedal for further processing.

So, you're thinking "B" for location between the C4 and Nemesis ADT Delay.

Q: Do you see a benefit to having Artifakt #1 channel upfront and #2 channel in your suggested location? (My thinking was Ladder Filter first?)

EDIT: I now have ARTIFAKT on order, as well!

That guitar video kinda got the wheels turning and a couple of the specific SA videos on each section, too.

 

[Gibs210]

So, you're thinking "B" for location between the C4 and Nemesis ADT Delay.

Q: Do you see a benefit to having Artifakt #1 channel upfront and #2 channel in your suggested location? (My thinking was Ladder Filter first?)

EDIT: I now have ARTIFAKT on order, as well!

That guitar video kinda got the wheels turning and a couple of the specific SA videos on each section, too.

Artifakt does not allow for channel splitting with the outputs. Mainly because it was gonna be tricky to implement with all that's going on in the Artifakt, and because we were running out of code for any possible bug fixes that may need to happen in the future.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

Artifakt does not allow for channel splitting with the outputs. Mainly because it was gonna be tricky to implement with all that's going on in the Artifakt, and because we were running out of code for any possible bug fixes that may need to happen in the future.

I wondered about this...I assumed that "dual mono" was potentially possible as I saw no loop channel or cascading channel featured.

Good to know. Will experiment with placement. Unless you would have a suggestion in the UWB-C4-Nemesis ADT chain?

Thanks

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

I had been confused with this in the manual:

I knew there was no tricky routing, but thought a dual mono "sperate" channel setting was OK.

I also reviewed the signal processing diagram.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

Before the Nemesis, IMO that way you can process sounds from the UW and C4, use alone and then send it to the final pedal for further processing.

Brad,

After two hours of boning up, tossing it in my mind and almost bailing on the acquisition twice. I believe that you're right on the spot

That's two I owe ya...!

Matt

 

[Luke the Fluke]

Having borrowed an Artifakt for a bit for me it's the time based section of chorus/flange/verb/delay that is making me want to buy one, with the filter an added extra bonus. I don't know what it was about them but they sounded so good.

 

[PhatBottomBass1]

This is Adrian Belew's BEAT pedalboard. It looks like a similar "before Nemesis ADT" as Brad had suggested to me as to where it should be placed in my UWB - C4 - (Artifakt) - Nemesis ADT chain.

 

[_Tay_]

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This is Adrian Belew's BEAT pedalboard. It looks like a similar "before Nemesis ADT" as Brad had suggested to me as to where it should be placed in my UWB - C4 - (Artifakt) - Nemesis ADT chain.

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This is Adrian Belew's BEAT pedalboard. It looks like a similar "before Nemesis ADT" as Brad had suggested to me as to where it should be placed in my UWB - C4 - (Artifakt) - Nemesis ADT chain.

Out of curiosity does the Artifakt cover the ground of what the Deco does??? Was a time i was interested in the Deco but went for the Jive instead.

 

[rsmith601]

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This is Adrian Belew's BEAT pedalboard. It looks like a similar "before Nemesis ADT" as Brad had suggested to me as to where it should be placed in my UWB - C4 - (Artifakt) - Nemesis ADT chain.

Artifakt makes the Deco redundant.

 

[rsmith601]

Out of curiosity does the Artifakt cover the ground of what the Deco does??? Was a time i was interested in the Deco but went for the Jive instead.

Ha! I should have read this post first. Yes, the tape section of Arti was designed with this task in mind.

 

[Luke the Fluke]

Was a time i was interested in the Deco but went for the Jive instead.

Deco is a digital emulation of tape saturation and double tracking delay...
Jive is a Zvek super hard on with a couple of diodes...