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Source Audio Sourcerers Society (S.A.S.S.) Pt 2

#881
jasonmitsch said:
Rsmith or anyone beta testing the manta:

Have you found any interesting sounds feeding distortion into the manta with the built in distortions stacked? I'm imagining some silly sounds with dirt+lfo with side chained dirt.
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yeah. you can get some blown out toanz that way. i've not played with the dirt section as much as i want, but with our recording thinger getting pushed back to Jan 17, i have more Just For Fun time. gonna dive into that soons as i can.

holy crap. we've got a gig coming up in Seattle supporting The Memorials, Thomas Pridgen's band.

OOF. PRESSURE. THAT MAN IS A BEAST.
 
#882
jasonmitsch said:
Rsmith or anyone beta testing the manta:

Have you found any interesting sounds feeding distortion into the manta with the built in distortions stacked? I'm imagining some silly sounds with dirt+lfo with side chained dirt.
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Everyone should be excited to hear that a couple of the drive voices in the Manta are bit crusher style voices. I've found them good for:

* Stacking on top of dirt before the Manta.
* Used alone with various LFO and other unusual / non-standard settings, then blended in to create weird sounds that sit on top of the clean tone.

All of the drive voices don't necessarily lend themselves to your typical dirt-into-filter sounds like you'd get with a dedicated drive box (like the OFD) but they certainly add another dimension of tonal possibilities. And the fact the envelope detection occurs prior to the drive effect means you can retain all of the fun envelope tracking from your raw input signal as compared to feeding dirt into the pedal which often causes 1-trick-pony style envelope tracking since a lot of dirt eats up all of your dynamics.

I think in general, a lot of us haven't fully explored the internal drive features as much as we could. There's a lot of combinations between half a dozen drive voices plus a couple of dozen filter voices PLUS all of the other controls available.

Get out your notebooks. :)
 
#883
Matt Dean said:
...However, I do use a low pass filter when playing reggae and dub music, so... can I use the Mantra as a low pass filter to roll off the highs when playing in my reggae band?
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Hmmm, good question. I had it in my mind to try this at one point but don't recall that I ever did. It's so easy to get wrapped up in the envelope, LFO, manual sweeps and all of the other fun stuff that I forgot.

I'll try to make time to explore this tonight. There's a nice new 6-pole LPF filter voice in there that would probably work well for that, or the more-Moog-like 4-pole LPF. Maybe apply some mild drive effect to warm it up and push a little harmonics.
 
#885
Matt Dean said:
I'm thinking of putting together a small board made up of an OFD, an Orbital, the Mantra and expression pedal. This will cover just about all of what I use in a gig. However, I do use a low pass filter when playing reggae and dub music, so... can I use the Mantra as a low pass filter to roll off the highs when playing in my reggae band?
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This is essentially my gig rig at the moment. The three SB2 boxes you mentioned, plus an Octaver. Since I also am beta testing the scene saver I have a small midi controller as well. I have one open spot on my board that I've thrown a fuzz flavor that I can't replicate with the OFD (a brassmaster type).

I was running a PT2 with the Dimension Reverb and Bass Multiwave, Xerograph, a hoof fuzz, a Monarch and Ditto Looper but didn't like taking something that big to some of my gigs, espescially when if I wanted to I could do everything in my band with just the Orbital, OFD and Octaver. Getting this all on to a PT Jr, seemed to be a good compromise between something better sized that could cover my options and going to a bare minimum setup.

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#886
gastric said:
Hmmm, good question. I had it in my mind to try this at one point but don't recall that I ever did. It's so easy to get wrapped up in the envelope, LFO, manual sweeps and all of the other fun stuff that I forgot.

I'll try to make time to explore this tonight. There's a nice new 6-pole LPF filter voice in there that would probably work well for that, or the more-Moog-like 4-pole LPF. Maybe apply some mild drive effect to warm it up and push a little harmonics.
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Yeah, I need to spend some more time on this myself as well.
 
#887
Thanks guys... I have to admit that I have recently become very intrigued by the possibility of reducing my pedalboard foot print and digging into the source audio universe. Adding to my LPF question: does SA have a straight up octave capability in one of it's pedals?

Edit: I'd love to get what I can do with this board on an all SA board with a significantly smaller foot print... like Smallequestrian's SA(ish) board.

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#888
Matt Dean said:
Adding to my LPF question: does SA have a straight up octave capability in one of it's pedals?
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If we can get happy with our pitch detection design to the point that it has very low latency, great tracking, and no octave jumps.......then we will. We were close a few weeks ago, but ultimately had a fatal weakness. A promising new approach is underway at the moment. If this part can be nailed down, the rest is straightforward and right up our alley.
 
#889
gastric said:
Hmmm, good question. I had it in my mind to try this at one point but don't recall that I ever did. It's so easy to get wrapped up in the envelope, LFO, manual sweeps and all of the other fun stuff that I forgot.

I'll try to make time to explore this tonight. There's a nice new 6-pole LPF filter voice in there that would probably work well for that, or the more-Moog-like 4-pole LPF. Maybe apply some mild drive effect to warm it up and push a little harmonics.
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+1

I think the #1 question in peoples' minds right now:

Does it get as fat as the MF-101/Xerograph Deluxe? :hiding:

If the pedal's frequency range has in fact been tuned a little bit better in the lower range then I have some very high hopes indeed!
 
#890
rsmith601 said:
If we can get happy with our pitch detection design to the point that it has very low latency, great tracking, and no octave jumps.......then we will. We were close a few weeks ago, but ultimately had a fatal weakness. A promising new approach is underway at the moment. If this part can be nailed down, the rest is straightforward and right up our alley.
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You can't rush perfection! :cool:
 
#891
rsmith601 said:
If we can get happy with our pitch detection design to the point that it has very low latency, great tracking, and no octave jumps.......then we will. We were close a few weeks ago, but ultimately had a fatal weakness. A promising new approach is underway at the moment. If this part can be nailed down, the rest is straightforward and right up our alley.
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I like it! Good old fashion R&D. :bassist:
 
#894
just got my Manta, SA programmable eq pedal, and BEF pro. :hyper: after playing around with it, the manta is my favorite bass envelope pedal of all time, and I prefer it over my WMD superfatman and Lovetone meatball. that said, I haven't had a chance to test out the BEF pro yet. ;)

their eq pedal is also marvelous and it's the best pedal EQ that I've ever owned. with the OFD and these two, IMO, Source Audio has really raised the bar on all effects pedals, let alone digital ones.
 
#896
Manta

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BTW, this little guy's envelope tracks better than any of my other envelope pedals (i.e. Mutron III, Mutron V (modded), Lovetone Meatball, WMD Superfatman, EHX Doctor Q (modded)& Seamoon Funk Machine).
it's also more adjustable than all of the others too. not only is it a great envelope pedal, but i was really surprised when actually got some really good Leslie 147 sounds out it while I was going thru the settings.
 
#898
what I mean is, on most envelope pedals, you can dial it in get the 'wah' exactly the way that you want it to open and close on the A & D strings, but the E string's response is different (due to different string to string balance and frequency). if you set it up to wah the way that you want it on the E, the A & D (and often G) don't have as much of an effect (not as much 'wah). for me, the Manta tracks all of the strings more evenly, better than any of my other envelope pedals do.
 

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