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SPECTOR® Club - Part 21

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From JPS: The NS-2A and NS-6A were neck-thru production copies of the USA models of that time with pearl-dot necks. Although a few NS-2A models were made with inlays towards the end.


Just to ask man , Why are you saying towards the end ? Samick made the ns2a for the last year or two , all of the inlay ns2a models I've ever seen were straight up Kramer models , not Samick/kramers . also several of the inlay ones I've seen on eBay didn't have the serial number on the cover , which would mean they were made the first few years of the ns2a .

that's a good point but I think the inlay ones were made from parts laying around the Kramer shop IIRC... at least thats what I thought I read/heard
 
I'm finding my Euro really hard to play, because the nut is so high. Anyone have any advice on filing a brass nut?

I'm not sure a good method to file down a bras nut but, replacements can be had cheap... even shipped to the UK... some guys here have bought them from 2 sources that I can think of and they fit well with no adjustment to my knowledge.
 
It's here!!!! I just got the NS-2JA-R that I bought from Madbassplaya who bought it from LimaGuy!!!

OMG this thing is awesome, I just played if for about 30 minutes... This thing hits the spot. The neck is wider (front to back) than my NS-2As but it fits really nice in my hand. the sound is very precise and well its got a wide range of tone...

I can't wait to play it on my big rig tomorrow!

The pictures don't do this bass justice.

i do have to raise the action on the E string its a little too low for how I play.
 
couple pics to get you all by

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They're no different than the NS-2A in quality.

This white one is in good condition. Honestly if it was half the price he's asking it would be an intriguing deal for me.

I seriously want my hands on one for photos. No one I know that would be willing to ship one to me has one.

It's an interesting footnote in the import designs... nothing like it before (because these were in the very first group of SPECTOR Imports made) or since have been made.

On par with the NS-2A and the Legends series... there is nothing wrong with these basses.

My NS-2A sits in the rack next to The Black Pearl and I love it because it's the only fretless I own.

If someone ends up buying this one or the NS-2A prototype, let me know. I'd love to get some good photos of either/both.


Oh how quick JPS forgets..actually I dont think you ever asked me to ship one to you, I just sent you pics of mine...which were crappy, I will admit! LOL
If you would like for me to ship you one or both of mine, I would be happy to do that....it would be an honor to have you photograph mine for Spector historical purposes!
You are correct, these are getting very rare, and that black one that is for sale on CL is VERY tempting! However I already have a black NS-2C (although it has Seymour Duncan actives in it instead of the stock "Spector" passives). Im still waiting for a blue or red one to appear somewhere, otherwise I would have asked the guy on CL if he would ship it. $250 is a great deal....but the white one is way overpriced. The most I have paid for one is $350.
JPS, say the word and I will have an NS-2C on its way to ya! Just send me a pvt msg with your address and we can work out the shipping ;)

Edit: That white one on Ebay has had the price dropped.....starting bid of $299
 
From JPS: The NS-2A and NS-6A were neck-thru production copies of the USA models of that time with pearl-dot necks. Although a few NS-2A models were made with inlays towards the end.

Just to ask man , Why are you saying towards the end ? Samick made the ns2a for the last year or two, all of the inlay ns2a models I've ever seen were straight up Kramer models , not Samick/kramers . also several of the inlay ones I've seen on eBay didn't have the serial number on the cover , which would mean they were made the first few years of the ns2a .

OK to clarify, they are all straight-up Kramer models. The difference is the contract factory that Kramer employed to do the builds. The first factory (which is the same factory SPECTOR works with today was dedicated just to Kramer and is now dedicated just to SPECTOR) and the Samick factory who besides building Samick will take on other company's designs on contract.

The Samick models were only during the last 6 months or so. Not the last year or two.

There were 7,000 NS-2A models made from 1986 to March of 1990 when Kramer shut it's doors. That's a four-year production run. There are less than a 1000 Samick-made NS-2A models. Sorry, NO one has exact numbers. It could be that there are 400-500 Samick NS-2A models... or be less or more. I know they are much less common. I've only seen 3 or 4 to the 30 or 40 of the standard NS-2A's for sale in the last few years.

The import stuff was Kramer... not Stuart. He insured in the beginning that the original factory was set up correctly and that he approved of the construction quality, etc... of the import instruments that had his name on them. But he really only focused on the USA-built models during his time there.

I don't have my notes in front of me so forgive me if I'm confused (and this period of SPECTOR's history is very confusing)...

But I recall that there were two circumstances by which the NS-2A inlay models came about.

There were a few NS-2A models which had inlays that were done for artists that wanted them but didn't want the cost of the NS-2. These account for about half of the total number that was estimated to have been built.

The rest were built in the end and were "parts basses" that were built after Stuart left Kramer... They were often a mix of USA NS-2 and the import NS-2A.

I'm not even sure how much of the changes going on with the imports Stuart was aware of. It's something I'm making an educated guess about but plan on clearing up when I interview him next month.

I've seen late model USA NS-2's with the Korean Haz copy circuit in them and of course there are the NS-2A's running around with USA neck inlays.

Towards the end of Kramer the owners were scrambling to try and keep the cash flow going. Of course Stuart had no idea, no one did, how deep the trouble was.

I've seen 2 that were "factory-done", meaning they were not aftermarket jobs and were ordered special by an artist from Kramer. Both were black gloss bodies and both were from the original Korean factory that did the majority of the NS-2A builds... not Samick. The inlay work on both was NOT anywhere near the same quality as the USA NS-2 models Stuart made while at Kramer. It wasn't on par with the Euro models either.

I'm working on my SPECTOR Documentary and plan on spending some time with Stuart at NAMM, picking his brain about this stuff. Details details... and I can tell you from first-hand experience, he really doesn't like talking about Kramer. It was a bad experience for him and he'd rather let it stay in the past.

He has come to understand that people who find these old Kramer SPECTOR models want to better understand what they have. So he's been very patient with me. He's really a very cool guy and someone I have unending respect for. He and PJ both.

You know how when you work with people after a while the "new car smell" sort of goes away and you start finding little things about them that sort of bother you?

In 2 years of being a consultant for SPECTOR I can only say that as time goes by I have more and more respect for these guys. Stuart, PJ, Jimmy... they're all really great people.
 
I'm finding my Euro really hard to play, because the nut is so high. Anyone have any advice on filing a brass nut?

If all the strings are too high, it might be easier to sand the wood under the nut, rather than filing the slots. I've not done it on a Spector but on other basses I had.

As for filing the individual slots it is difficult if you want to save the cosmetics, if you aren;t careful it can mar the finish outside the slot. I have some small metal files I use from when I had to file bridge saddle slots that work well, but I'm not quite patient enough to do a perfect job cosmetically :D

Also @JPS's post, I have to say I have never heard of a manufacturer with such close ties to the customer base as Spector, one of the reason why these instruments are so great is the manufacturers support!
 
Speaking of, where is Todd???

Still checking in on you guys from time to time.

I haven't forgotten about the TB Limited Edition Spector's for you guys. I have been working with PJ this week trying to work out some details and costs. PJ has been talking with Stuart and we are all trying to come to an agreement on what they will do exactly and what the cost's will be. I had to send a revision back to them today. Hopefully in the next week or so I can have a couple of options for you guys to pick from and what the cost's will run. Sorry it's taken so long, just don't want to promise something that we can't deliver.

Thanks again everyone for your great input. I think we are going to come back with something that will hopefully make most of you happy!! :hyper:
 
It's here!!!! I just got the NS-2JA-R that I bought from Madbassplaya who bought it from LimaGuy!!!

OMG this thing is awesome, I just played if for about 30 minutes... This thing hits the spot. The neck is wider (front to back) than my NS-2As but it fits really nice in my hand. the sound is very precise and well its got a wide range of tone...

I can't wait to play it on my big rig tomorrow!

The pictures don't do this bass justice.

i do have to raise the action on the E string its a little too low for how I play.

So glad you're digging it and it made it there safely!

That bass had a sound and feel that I loved. It would be the perfect Spector for me if it were a 5 string! :)
 
I just completed My Spector Story Episode II :hyper: :bassist:

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sooo awesome


On a side note... we got the masters back for our 3 song EP... we will be releasing them on our reverbnation page this weekend!!!

On another side note..... my new bass is amazing!! I got the action a little higher and boy its perfect!!
 
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