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Spector Club - Part 14

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Unless we see a pic of it, theres no way to know, but I bet ya its a Samick NS2A. Most folks cant really tell the difference unless they are side by side. Very few really notice that the tops are not as rounded/carved as the Kramers are.

I am not sure if Chris is referring to the same bass that I see him with on his Facebook page, but that NS-2A looks fully curved and dosent have the Samick knob configuration.

Chris, waiting for your answer to make sense of this or confuse us more. :hiding: :D
 
Chris,
You have the fully curved model correct?

Now I am confused. :confused:
So they switched to the Samick version in late 1989-1990 and then went back to the original version in 1991?
When they (Kramer) were clearing out parts/inventory at the end it could very well have been the original NS2A style. This was on Kramer at the time and I don't believe (I could be wrong) that Samick was involved anymore. Obviously any of the last NS2A's you run across with actual leftover NS2 bodies and necks are going to be the original non-Samick style.

If you've got an NS2A made that late in the game, I would seriously look under the bridge to see if it has the insert. You might be one of the lucky ones with an actual NS2 body and neck. :hyper:
 
I am not sure if Chris is referring to the same bass that I see him with on his Facebook page, but that NS-2A looks fully curved and dosent have the Samick knob configuration.

Chris, waiting for your answer to make sense of this or confuse us more. :hiding: :D

Yup, Ns-2a, fully curved. I will look under the bridge to look for an insert sometime, but I am pretty sure it's not an NS-2 body, it is really light compared to my my Euro and my NS-4.
 
When they (Kramer) were clearing out parts/inventory at the end it could very well have been the original NS2A style. This was on Kramer at the time and I don't believe (I could be wrong) that Samick was involved anymore. Obviously any of the last NS2A's you run across with actual leftover NS2 bodies and necks are going to be the original non-Samick style.

If you've got an NS2A made that late in the game, I would seriously look under the bridge to see if it has the insert. You might be one of the lucky ones with an actual NS2 body and neck. :hyper:

would the insert be behind or in front of the bridge?
 
would the insert be behind or in front of the bridge?
I've never seen one up close, but I think it's all the way around is my understanding.

Maybe PM Tim Cole as I believe (besides making this initial discovery several years back) he owns one and updated it to full on NS2.

EDIT: And here it is: :D
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Oh yeah, might as well bump the thread with my bass. This one too had the bridge filler in it, I had it removed, refinished the bass, and had US hardware, Hazlab pre, and EMG's put in it. I have way too much money in this bass, but love it.
 
would the insert be behind or in front of the bridge?

Behind, and around the sides. You should be able to see a ghost line around the bridge about an eighth of an inch or so around it such as found in mine.

Keep in mind, this "USA body neck" theory is one I came up with after having my 2a with the inlays, and the filler piece there. PJ Rubal said he knows nothing of such theory, and said that less than 24 of the last 2a's came with inlays. Not sure why they would do that, but it is what it is. I've also seen these 2a's with inlays, and a transparent finish...making the bridge routing highly unlikely on those. Here's the removed filler from my bass.....when I got it, it had the original black finish on it with the filler under it, so it was done at the factory this way.

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Behind, and around the sides.
I stand corrected. (You're too quick ;))

Not sure if you saw this post when you posted this bass a few pages back:
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Where are your strap buttons?

They seemed to have gotten a little sloppy on the inlays with these. Every time I see one of these (or one of the "special" inlayed NS2A's) some of the inlays are off center (Low to high here. Closer towards the headstock than centered. Especially the 9th fret).

None of my USA or Czech Spectors (nor any others I recall seeing) seem to have this issue, so I'm assuming it has something to do with their unusual build situations at the time. Perhaps "factory 2nds' (because of the inlays) that eventually wound up as NS2A's, special or otherwise. :hmm:
Curious.
I've seen a couple of these for sure now and a few of the "special" NS2A's that may or may not be the same as yours. They all have inlays that are all or partially off center. I believe your theory is sound, with the addition of my theory that these were originaly factory 2nds (because of the "off" inlays) and were probably put out as NS2A's at the end.
 
Behind, and around the sides. You should be able to see a ghost line around the bridge about an eighth of an inch or so around it such as found in mine.

Keep in mind, this "USA body neck" theory is one I came up with after having my 2a with the inlays, and the filler piece there. PJ Rubal said he knows nothing of such theory, and said that less than 24 of the last 2a's came with inlays. Not sure why they would do that, but it is what it is. I've also seen these 2a's with inlays, and a transparent finish...making the bridge routing highly unlikely on those. Here's the removed filler from my bass.....when I got it, it had the original black finish on it with the filler under it, so it was done at the factory this way.

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With 2a bridge
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Ah, Mine would not fit your theory, just dot inlays...
Also, is your bass light compared to other Spectors you have/have seen? Mine is really light, especially compared to my American. I had a ns-2o and that was heavy compared to my NS-2A.
 
Ah, Mine would not fit your theory, just dot inlays...
Also, is your bass light compared to other Spectors you have/have seen? Mine is really light, especially compared to my American. I had a ns-2o and that was heavy compared to my NS-2A.
FWIW, the first NS2A I ever came across was very light compared to a normal NS2. I was surprised that none of the later ones I owned or ran across in stores and pawn shops were nearly as light. Most that I've experienced have been about the same weight or a little lighter (due to the lighter hardware probably) as an NS2.
 
Man, you Spector guys move fast. Not to quote myself below, but I got an answer from Spector today on my bass:

hello -

thanks for the email. I am glad you are enjoying your Spector bass.

that bass was made prior to 2001, when we changed to our current
method of serializing those basses. so it's approx. late 90's
or 2000...depending on it's specs (fingerboard inlays, SS or SSD name).

it would be model number NS-4CR or NS-5CR, aka later model name Euro4 and Euro5.

Just joined the Spector club, after buying this bass from a local seller. Anyone help me age this bass???

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hello -

thanks for the email. I am glad you are enjoying your Spector bass.

that bass was made prior to 2001, when we changed to our current
method of serializing those basses. so it's approx. late 90's
or 2000...depending on it's specs (fingerboard inlays, SS or SSD name).

it would be model number NS-4CR or NS-5CR, aka later model name Euro4 and Euro5.
Not completely accurate (but then again, they've been a little fuzzy about some of their own history for years :smug:) but pretty much.
Yup! A "Spector" Mach2 era NS4CRFM made from 1999 to early 2001 (as I predicted :D:hiding:).
This is when they began to put inlays in the Czech basses and all (Czech and USA) 5's and 6's became 35" scale standard.

:p;)
 
New USA Spector NS-2
Metallic Blue
BEM board
Never played
Signed 12.17.10
Recieved from factory Feb 2011

I am more of a pau ferro guy.
This thing is drop dead gorgous. I would let it go for $3500 shipped lower 48 states.

Email [email protected] for more pics.
 
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