Spector Club - Part 17

[Clearwave]

While I'm sure there are players that need something below Low B, most do not, especially middle-aged guys in old-guy-cover-bands.

I'm a player that doesn't need anything below an E. (almost middle age) I played a 5 string for 15 years. I've really enjoyed going to back to 4.

 

[anton72]

I had to part with my "boutique" Pedulla ET-5 because of floppy B. It was 34". Now I play Euro435LX, which is 35"scale 4er, tuned regular EADG and what I really like is 35" feel even with standard tuning.

I've owned Fender and EBMM. The EBMM's B string was good, very good on one of them. The other, not so much. The Fenders I've played weren't even close. Now I've heard some Fenders with a good B string but the ones I've had were just awful.

 

[Clearwave]

It's an NS-2A. Was almost mine until Mr Clearwave pipped me to the post

I don't know who Ian Hill is, but I love the look of his bass.

 

[fuzzychaos]

Ya mean he didn't buy yours???:scowl:

No, didn't see Trace had one for sale

Is that a serious faux pas?

 

[Tracebassplayer]

I don't know who Ian Hill is, but I love the look of his bass.

He is the bassist for Judas Priest.
He also learned on UTB... Up Tight Bass. LOL.

 

[Tracebassplayer]

No, didn't see Trace had one for sale

Is that a serious faux pas?

Yeah. I have a minty 2010 Legend 4 Classic in blue/ black stain with an HSC ... for sale.

we'll let ya slide on the faux pas...
This time...............

 

[loend68]

I had the chance to play a Forte 4 yesterday.....damn fine instrument!! I might have to place an order soon......

 

[FunkySpoo]

No, didn't see Trace had one for sale

Is that a serious faux pas?

IZZAT French for fox pass?

 

[rulyongo]

Hey guys! I need a Spector Club number!!! I've been using my Kramer era (1988) NS2-A a lot these days!!! Here's a picture of me rockin' the Spector!!!

 

[grendle]

It's funny. Those guys over on the Double Bass side are still whining about my thread... long after I threw my hands up and walked away.

I thought all bassists were pretty chill... it seems to be a trait many of the bassists I've met have shared.

But those upright hard-core guys are prissy, moody and given to bouts of self important sphincter occlusion... to keep it within the boundaries of what's acceptable.

I'm really disappointed with them. I'm boycotting the DB side of TB from now on. It's no surprise to me now that there are 6 people viewing their main DB Basses forum while there are over 180 actively viewing the Basses forum on our side.

That's funny! Most of us here are pretty open minded and can like things for what they are. I don't play DB but have picked one up. To move like that on a DB is sick!

 

[Clearwave]

It's funny. Those guys over on the Double Bass side are still whining about my thread... long after I threw my hands up and walked away.

I thought all bassists were pretty chill... it seems to be a trait many of the bassists I've met have shared.

But those upright hard-core guys are prissy, moody and given to bouts of self important sphincter occlusion... to keep it within the boundaries of what's acceptable.

I'm really disappointed with them. I'm boycotting the DB side of TB from now on. It's no surprise to me now that there are 6 people viewing their main DB Basses forum while there are over 180 actively viewing the Basses forum on our side.

I picked up a double bass for a stint, it was fun to play. After a few minutes, I felt my IQ beginning to soar. It was exciting for a while but I couldn't handle it. The new levels of intellect began to frighten me and I became very paranoid, I became a stranger to my wife and kids. I decided it wasn't worth it and never touched it again. Sure, sometimes I daydream about what "I could have been" but in the end I know I did the right thing.

I spend some time in pro audio forums, now those guys are pricks!

 

[fuzzychaos]

IZZAT French for fox pass?

Sounds plausible

 

[Josh Pelican]

This picture actually came out pretty bad, but I wanted to show off my favorite headstock:

It was a little too bright and I set the contrast too high. Plus, the logo came out blurry. I like how the headstock fades into the black, but I hate that I forgot to clean it off.

I would take more pictures, but I took well over 30 pictures and ended up with two that I liked. I set my standards high with photography. The other pictures I have of the Spector are much better. You guys into photography will know what I'm talking about.

 

[PhatBasstard]

Well, so is "better."

I've played too many 34" scale 5 stringers with all the features you note above to continue to believe that it's necessary to go 35". Companies like Fender, Sadowsky, EBMM and AC, among others, have no issues building a good 34" 5 string.

Sorry, but you completely missed all the important points. Even the ones I purposefully put in bold.

Let's try again: All Things Being Equal..., for those that want the most sustain and piano string like modern tones, 35" will be quantifiably, measurably better.
All things being equal, given what we know about string tension between two given points, it is physically impossible not to be better given the desired result.

Nobody said there aren't good 34's out there. 35" or more is just going to be better period with all things being equal for the crowd that wants that desired result provided above from their instrument. Assuming they are physically adept enough to handle the larger scale.
If you're not going for this side of the tone/performance equation, you're right, 35" or more is probably not "needed". Probably not even 34". But if you are, it is undeniably "better" all things being equal.

Most upright players will tell that full length (4/4) basses, all things being equal, tend to sound the best. But the physical playing issue creeps in so that is why most tend to use 3/4 basses instead. That's where the point of diminishing returns requires a trade off, not because the 3/4 sounds just as good.

No concert pianist, given the choice between otherwise identical concert grands (insert manufacturer), chooses the shorter model.

No concert harp player, all things being equal, thinks the smaller models sound as good. We could go on........

 

[PhatBasstard]

I picked up a double bass for a stint, it was fun to play. After a few minutes, I felt my IQ beginning to soar. It was exciting for a while but I couldn't handle it. The new levels of intellect began to frighten me and I became very paranoid, I became a stranger to my wife and kids. I decided it wasn't worth it and never touched it again. Sure, sometimes I daydream about what "I could have been" but in the end I know I did the right thing.

I spend some time in pro audio forums, now those guys are pricks!

I giggled a bit.

 

[madbassplaya]

Sorry, but you completely missed all the important points. Even the ones I purposefully put in bold.

Let's try again: All Things Being Equal..., for those that want the most sustain and piano string like modern tones, 35" will be quantifiably, measurably better.
All things being equal, given what we know about string tension between two given points, it is physically impossible not to be better given the desired result.

Nobody said there aren't good 34's out there. 35" or more is just going to be better period with all things being equal for the crowd that wants that desired result provided above from their instrument. Assuming they are physically adept enough to handle the larger scale.
If you're not going for this side of the tone/performance equation, you're right, 35" or more is probably not "needed". Probably not even 34". But if you are, it is undeniably "better" all things being equal.

Most upright players will tell that full length (4/4) basses, [all things being equal[/b], tend to sound the best. But the physical playing issue creeps in so that is why most tend to use 3/4 basses instead. That's where the point of diminishing returns requires a trade off, not because the 3/4 sounds just as good.

No concert pianist, given the choice between otherwise identical concert grands (insert manufacturer), chooses the shorter model.

No concert harp player, all things being equalthinks the smaller models sound as good. We could go on........

I agree.

A 35 inch scale is a "modern" feature. A Spector is a "modern" bass, so it makes sense to me.

 

[MrBEAR]

Ian Hill 435

 

[Trailight]

Three! And a picture likeness of my soon to be delivered Forte 4!


Ordered a set of GHS Precision stainless flatwounds long regulars tonight thru bass strings online, to be waiting to install. Amazing low prices !!

OH YES!!! What a beauty!

 

[Trailight]

I happy to announce that I will soon be in possession of Mr. BPL Demo Forte 4.
When I found out that this actual Forte 4 would be made for sale to a dealer I checked with PJ and he worked some “magic” behind the scenes and it will be coming to me soon.
Luckily I had recently just paid it up.

I did flip flop on the purchase a bit since I was told it receive a dent on the back of the body. But it took me about a minute to think there is no way I could pass this up after seeing the flame on it and I can’t wait till mid-end February.

After it is done posing for the master photographer it should be coming my way sometime next week.

So it appears we may be having 2 new Forte owners within the next week.

That's amazing! Great news! PLEASE get your wife to take a photo of your face when:
1. You hold it for the first time.
2. When you first plug it in a play!

Even better...Make a video of it!

 

[JPSBassist]

Having studied upright bass for many years, there is alot of looking down on bass guitar players. I had one upright teacher who would never even touch a bass guitar and refused to own one. They also have their own battles with each other, like Classical players vs. Jazz Cats.

Te Upright's are Uptight for sure.

I did get one personal note from a gentleman over there that was very positive and gave me some hope that not all DB/Upright players have corn cobs. And Miles seemed really chill. I wish I could have talked with him about his style... he's obviously classically trained (what with the bow and everything).

Yeah. I was disappointed more than anything. To me... with my background in psychiatric medicine and having worked in two different psych hospitals... it's my experience that people who assert themselves through entitlement and a superior intellectual standpoint are really very small, insecure people inside. In four years of working in psych hospitals I only met 1 patient who was truly sociopathic and honestly was the scariest person I've ever met. He was destined to never be allowed out of a hospital. And at the time he was 16 years-old. That kid had the potential to be a monster. He is the only person I've ever met that really believed he was better than everyone else.

So the "little" mindsets of the guys over there, as disappointed as I am because I have enormous respect for the training and skill required to master the upright bass (actually I have that respect for anyone who masters any musical instrument), I don't care to waste my time trying to help a bunch of close-minded, angry people through "forum therapy"... I can get a license from Cali, open an office and start practicing medicine again for that matter. And at $$$ an hour it's still not worth it.

Rule number 1 in psychiatric medicine... you cannot help anyone who doesn't want to be helped. Sad but true.

I'll stick to this forum. You guys are awesome. I even adore and appreciate Phat's caustic ranting when he's given to it... LOL. Love you Phat!