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Spector Club (Part 2)

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Well, as for the pickups go; if it´s good for anyone else it is god for me to :)

Thats why I´m gonna pull the trigger on a Black Stain LX, with P/J. The Black and Blue LX I posted was out of stock and the Birdseye Poplar Top is just too fancy for me I think. I just hope that the bass searching I have done for while, with lots of money involved, will stop with this bass.

If I someday get very rich I will order a bass with a fat soapbar near the neck.

I post the Stain also.
 

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DGbass70 said:
Hahahaha.....hey is that amp a Shuttle or something else.
How do you like it?I want to switch my amp but i'm undecided on what to buy,so far i tried LM2 and i think i like it.But it would be nice to hear your opinion on that amp of yours.
Thanks.
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Not to derail the Spector thread, but its a Genz-Benz GBE600. These preceded the GBE750, which preceded the Shuttle series. They are heavy by today's standards at 33 lbs., but its still really quite manageable. But, they have a heavy tone as well. They have dual preamps (tube and solid-state), with the abliity to use both simultaneously. I've played many amps with simlarly rated wattage (425 watts @ 4 ohms), but this sounds much louder than all of them. I love the lightweight of the Shuttle series, but I was never tempted by them because I would be giving up so much tonal flexability if I switched to one.

For example, at the show where that pic was taken, I had my Fender and my Spector. I used the tube channel on my P-bass with flats, and the solid state channel for the Spector. Kind of accentuating the positive of each bass. The Shuttle only has the one preamp, so I couldn't have that versatility. If I only used one sound, I would be more tempted by the Shuttles. I'm much more interested in the new ShuttleMAX 6.0 & 12.0 as they have the dual pres, which you can mix together, and seperate EQs for each channel, plus they are lightweight and also have more power than my GBE600.

Markbass is cool, I've played their stuff and it sounds very different from Genz' stuff, but very good in it's own way. I wouldn't be upset to own any Markbass equipment if I weren't such a Genz fan. But Genz as a company will always have my loyalty. I have witnessed examples of customer service with them that I frankly would never believe had I not seen them myself. They are above and beyond anyone when it comes to customer service in a mass production, non-boutique amp environment. Plus, they have tone for days. My amp falls somewhere between GK and Eden tonewise IMO, less mud and more clarity than Eden, but much warmer than a GK. They are modern sounding, but they are versatile enough to get old school-ish if you want that too. I know that no amp is right for everyone, but I would recommend Genz to anyone who asked without hesitation.

[/Genz-Benz commercial]:D
 
#945
"but i agree with the good captain... your bass might look nice but until you post pics it doesn't sound good. i got a new rule... we've had "no pics, no bass". for you my friend... "no clips, no sound". " :D

You guys can't be making new rules !!!!!!

"in all seriousness, i am very curious to hear how it sounds. it threw me off at first. those pups take up a lot of real-estate. they look like the TW models. how do they J coils sound? can you get a convincing dual J sound out of it?
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I haven't played a jazz in quite some time but I would say you can get a very convincing j-sound. But, with both of the humbuckers this thing sounds massive- just what I like!
 
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vegaas said:
Question for you Homer,

You have the exact same 5LX Euro I just bought, right down to the Black Cherry color. Can you compare and contrast it to the ReBop that you have?

Thanks
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Homer can still chime in, and I'm sure he will. I used to own an NS5CRFM, the predecessor to the current Euro LX. I have also played a few of the Euro LXs, in addition to the Rebop I currently own.

A few obvious differences are the Euro having the brass bridge and nut while the Rebop has an aluminum bridge and a plastic nut of some kind (it's black). My NS5CRFM was a good 4+ lbs. heavier than my Rebop. Also, the neck on the NS5CRFM was noticeably thicker, but the Rebop has a pretty beefy neck too. They are similar, but the neck profile is a bit deeper on the neck-thru models. Also, the Rebop has a bolt-on neck, but you most likely knew that already. However, the neck is set very deep into the body. I've lost little, if any, sustain or focus. It seems like Spector's goal was to make a bolt-on bass that sounded similar to a neck-thru because it is very similar to a neck-thru.

Another key difference, and this is the big one to me, is the pickups. The EMG HZs sound good, but I don't like them as much as the active EMGs in the Euro LX. My Rebop has active EMGs and a BQS preamp instead of the Tonepump. It sounds every bit as good to me as any neck-thru Spector I've played. Plus, it is so much lighter than it is easier to play for me. I've heard of Rebops having issues with neck-dive due to the lighter weight but I've not experienced this myself.

For me, I prefer the Rebop to the Euro for 5-string Spector choices due to the weight and slightly thinner neck, provided the pickups are upgraded. I we were talking about a 4-string, I prefer the Euro LX with the P/J setup. Hope this helps. I'm sure homer will weigh in with his thoughts as well.
 
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Night Prowler said:
What are the differences with the TonePump electronic and the Spector 9V, that comes in the NS-2? Is it possible to change the tonepump in the Euro LX model to that? What are the pros and cons?
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A search (even in this very thread :smug:) will get you plenty of reading on this issue.

The short of it is the NS2 original pre is a Hazlab, which is no longer made. Get an EMG pre and you're pretty close to the Hazlab.
 
#951
It was always my understanding (IIRC) that the current Spector pre (NS-2) is the same as what has always been used- even made by the same person.
Night Prowler- If you are really interested in getting that particular pre you should contact PJ Rubal. I would also say to give the Tonepump a chance before deciding to swap it out. Opinions differ- some like it others hate.
 
#953
Jasonger said:
It was always my understanding (IIRC) that the current Spector pre (NS-2) is the same as what has always been used- even made by the same person.
Night Prowler- If you are really interested in getting that particular pre you should contact PJ Rubal. I would also say to give the Tonepump a chance before deciding to swap it out. Opinions differ- some like it others hate.
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Yeah, I will give it a chance first. Not that I know much about this things.
 
#956
Night Prowler said:
Sorry, I should have search first.

But does that mean the tonepump sucks or just not good enough as the US Spectors?
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first, it might be good to email pj and ask him specifics about the preamp. second, we live in an upgrade world. people always want to change things. personally, my experience showed that the tonepump is a pretty good preamp. i have upgraded... but i'm not sure it's really an upgrade at this point. i do like having a mid control with my bqc, but other than lacking a mid control, i really liked the tonepump.

get the bass and enjoy it for a while. then when you know what it does well and where it is lacking, you'll be able to start looking for something to fix it's "shortcomings".
 
#957
Din Of Win said:
Just bought it today :D

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Its wonderfull other than some bad buzzing on the E string... i gotta figgure out how to adjust the action...
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That's a performer dlx 4 right?
If it is, i have to say it's really good. I have one but in cherry sunburst. The tone is outstanding :)
 
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