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Spector Club Pt. 5 (Insert Clever Title Here)

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#584
PhatBasstard said:
Except when you get into the SSD era where they confusingly (per Stuart) were calling the NS2 type (PJ) models "NS4", when historically (and again post trademark re-aquisition) the twin soap bar model is the NS4. :eyebrow:

That has caused some confusion over the years. :p
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True, but this was for legal reasons until he had reacquired the SPECTOR® trademarks from the ruins of Kramer. And the NS-2® trademark was in that mess. So to be safe, once he cleared that he could make the NS-Bass® with Ned, he decided to call it something different as to avoid any potential liability.
 
#585
Question:
I have my 1989 Spector NS2 all torn apart. It was very dirty when I got it and I'm in the process of cleaning everything before I put it back together. It has a black gloss finish that, considering it's age, is in good condition. If I got it professionally refinished, do you think that its value would be reduced? The only reason that I am thinking of having it refinished is that it needs new frets. With the way Spectors have the clear finish on the side of the neck (covering the fret ends), I figured it would easier to re-fret if you didn't have to worry about trying to preserve the area around the fret ends. I would want to see what's under the black before making a decision on a new finish. If it has some nice figured maple without any ugly spots I would probably lean towards a hand rubbed oil/wax finish (with or without an amber or black cherry stain). If the wood wasn't that appealing I would probably stick with gloss black. Opinions?
 
#586
Wouldn't refin much anything from the Brooklyn/Kramera era, if it's a USA model like yours.

My '85 NS2 is in black, and is in really great shape for it's age. I always thought about redoing it, but nowadays no freakin' way. If you want something with the "new look", just get a new Spector! ;) Don't go ruinin' bass history!
 
#587
JPSBassist said:
True, but this was for legal reasons until he had reacquired the SPECTOR® trademarks from the ruins of Kramer. And the NS-2® trademark was in that mess. So to be safe, once he cleared that he could make the NS-Bass® with Ned, he decided to call it something different as to avoid any potential liability.
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Yes, he mentioned the legal reasons for it. It just seemed, in hindsight, it would have been better to call it something different (NS Bass, NS24, etc.) temporarily rather than confuse the issue by labeling it with the exact model designation of a different past/future in-house model.
 
#588
fretless_guy said:
Question:
I have my 1989 Spector NS2 all torn apart. It was very dirty when I got it and I'm in the process of cleaning everything before I put it back together. It has a black gloss finish that, considering it's age, is in good condition. If I got it professionally refinished, do you think that its value would be reduced? The only reason that I am thinking of having it refinished is that it needs new frets. With the way Spectors have the clear finish on the side of the neck (covering the fret ends), I figured it would easier to re-fret if you didn't have to worry about trying to preserve the area around the fret ends. I would want to see what's under the black before making a decision on a new finish. If it has some nice figured maple without any ugly spots I would probably lean towards a hand rubbed oil/wax finish (with or without an amber or black cherry stain). If the wood wasn't that appealing I would probably stick with gloss black. Opinions?
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Intrinsic value. What makes you happy may not make someone else happy... Sounds dorky, but when it comes to instruments, removing the finish greatly reduces the 'intrinsic value' thus reducing the overall monetary value. In your case, you have a late '80s Kramer era NS2 in what looks to be very good condition. What you need to ask yourself... Is this a keeper? Or will I eventually move it? Given this forum, regardless how you feel now, it will find another home. G.A.S. is evil. That said, I would leave the finish. Dents, dings, scrapes, scratches, chips and all. If the finish is dull and lifeless from years of abuse, that can be addressed with buffing and polishing compounds and someone that knows how to properly use them. Oh and IMO, the black finish is COOL! :bassist:
 
#590
bobunit said:
That said, I would leave the finish. Dents, dings, scrapes, scratches, chips and all. If the finish is dull and lifeless from years of abuse, that can be addressed with buffing and polishing compounds and someone that knows how to properly use them. Oh and IMO, the black finish is COOL! :bassist:
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I totally agree.

My 1988 gloss black was scratched and a little dull. But no chips or major dings. I had it defretted and the neck refinished. But didn't touch the original paint/finish other than to compound it out and high-speed buff it (had a pro luthier do it).

It looks really good now to be a 22 year-old bass. I wouldn't ever refinish a Spector unless the paint/finish was so far gone that refinishing was the only option to preserve the bass from damage.
 
#592
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There is a beautiful refinish. It belongs to Todd Cooke. Most Spectors belong to Todd:). Work was done at [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
 
#596
rockstarbassist said:
yeah that's an amazing job. But the Sims Custom Shop isn't any part time operation, haha!

That seriously is gorgeous.
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Yeah. I'm scared to ask. How much? Gotta be pretty steep. On a different note. I have been playing Jazz type basses since I was 16. That was many years ago. My thumb has always rested on the neck pickup. On my Spector my thumb naturally gravitates to the neck P pickup. Problem is; I feel the edge of the pickup screw. quite uncomfortable. Do you guys find this an issue?
 
#599
Mr.Bassie720 said:
There is a beautiful refinish. It belongs to Todd Cooke. Most Spectors belong to Todd:). Work was done at Sims Custom Shop
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Be very careful when dealing with refinishing shops. Especially this one. Thought I wasn't going to end up getting the basses back. Wasn't completed on time and lots of issues and excuses.

The finished product end up great but communication and on time delivery is not their strong suite.

They had a fire at there facility and I lost one of my USA NS-2's in the fire. And guess what, they had no insurance. NICE!!!

Stick with someone more legitimate like Pat Wilkins, who use to do all the Spector finishes or Robert Gerhard, who does all the current finish work for Stuart.
 
#600
bassboy01 said:
Oh quit it. Now you are just being too nice:o Thanks for the nice comments!!!!
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Lol is that you mang?? Haha I was just about to post if Todd was ever on the forum!

It's Reagan from TX duder, if you recall. I got the '85 NS2 in piano black from your site, and I JUST bought Rex's NS5 (see sig!) this week!
I'm still on the lookout for an SSD-era NS4 too if you ever find one bro! ;)
 
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