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Spector Club Pt. 5 (Insert Clever Title Here)

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I've played since the '60s but put it away for a long time. Got back into it regularly again and decided I needed to have an active bass. The NS-2 caught my attention so I got an NS-2-JA-R as my introduction to Spector. The price was right and it has the NS body even if it's not a classic Spector P/J.

It's taken me a while to get used to it since only having my Tele all these years but I'm very happy with it. Obviously it's brighter and has more mids than a passive single coil Fender but I can get a fairly warm tone from it through a solid state Ampeg SVT/810 rig or my PJB practice set-up. Or I can EQ it through the roof.

I'll say it's great value for the money. I believe Sam Ash has the lowest price on new ones out there at $899. I had to give it a proper set-up after they supposedly did it so count on that. I've only seen a couple used ones for sale.

As to tone, it's modern. That's all I can say because it's so subjective. Amps and strings will change what you can wring from it.

As to playability, it's fast, fairly light and has that great NS curved body. An NS-2 or Forte4 will now be my next Spector.

One other thing ... it wasn't holding tune very long but it seems to have settled in and is now much better. Maybe it was the season's weather difference as I got it last November. I also play it hours each day so the tone has also opened up since it was new.

Mine is gloss black. It looks great with its Pau Ferro fingerboard and black headstock.

Thank you for the feedback! I'm thinking of getting one in gloss black too.

Is it very bright? I like a lot that warm tone...

Do the EMG's work well? Any issues about it?

One more thing, the serial number is in the back of the headstock, right?
 
The bass just arrived! :hyper:
What don't you like about the tonepump? or what do you like about the preamps you enjoy?

I haven't gotten mine on a strap yet, but I can only imagine it'll dive a little. I'm sure ultra light tuners and weights are in my future. :hmm:

Another tonepump hater.......I can't wait to hear this bass....just to see how bad it sucks. :D:D

Oh man, the curved body sure is nice....that's for sure. I just caressed it's contours.....op.....ummm......hello everyone....just touching my bass like I would touch a woman. :eyebrow:

Congratulations! OK. My bolt-on NS-2JA-R has a very similar body/shape/profile to the ReBops... I have no issues with Neck-Dive. And... It came with Dunlop Strap locks, which I personally can't stand... I replaced them with Schallers.

I don't have any issues with the TonePump. There is a trim pot on the actual TonePump which allows you to control output volume. If you want this bass to fall more into line with your others. Take the back plate off and adjust the pot. Put everything back on and test. You may have to do this a few times.

I've never had a TonePump hooked up to passive pups. And the EMG HZ's that come standard on the ReBops are passive. But some people love those. Mike Kroeger of Nickelback orders $$$ custom USA NS-5 models and has Stuart put HZs in them.

To each their own... I had an Aguilar OBP-1 installed in my NS-2A when I put in my active EMGs... and the sound was not satisfactory to me. The old passive P/J's and the Korean HazLab copy sounded better to me. So I dropped a TonePump into it and adjusted the trim pot and NOW it sounds like a Spector should.

So don't be so quick to jump on the TonePump hater wagon. I find that adjusting it from the factory settings helps a lot. They tend to come out of the Czech factory a little hot.

Lastly... GO GET SOME NECK CONDITIONER... Spector recommends Dunlop's #65 products for the necks and bodies of their basses and guitars.

YOUR NECK WILL BE DRY. This happens in the trans-atlantic shipping. So take your strings off... condition the neck and then restring and setup.

Again, congrats. I'm still in the market for a ReBop myself. I've always liked bolt-ons. So it's either a ReBop or a USA NS-2H-FM... and right now I can't afford either...

Rock on!
 
Thank you for the feedback! I'm thinking of getting one in gloss black too.
Is it very bright? I like a lot that warm tone...
Do the EMG's work well? Any issues about it?
One more thing, the serial number is in the back of the headstock, right?

It's brighter than the typical Spector... but it has some lowend... just not as much as your P/Js provide. I happen to love the tone.

The EMG's are married to the EMG BT tone controls perfectly. They are designed to work together... so absolutely no issues there.

NO... the serial on the black models (sometimes...) and the white models (always) are going to be under the control cover stamped on the body. The serial number stamping process is different than the "made under license... Stuart Spector" stamp. And the Czech factory had issues with the gloss white and gloss black bodies. It's not always the case with the black. But it is with the white. My white NS-2JA-R
s serial is under the control cavity cover on the edge of the body... just under the cover.

So don't panic if you don't see a serial for it. And unfortunately, the JA-R, although set to a limited run of 83 per color (3 colors), were not given special serial numbers. I wish they had been... such as No.24 of 83... etc...

In my mind that would have increased their value. Like a limited run of lithographs in the art world.

I think it's a great guitar.
 
I picked up a US NS5-H2 a while back and need to change the strings. I think it has nickels of some kind on it right now (the previous owner didn't know what they were) and I like them. Any string suggestions from the seasoned vets? I use nickel SIT strings on my Thumb and am thinking of just tossing a set on there and seeing what happens.

I have SIT strings on my JA-R and D'Addario Chrome Flats on my fretless NS-2A. I have Spector nickels on my Euro... and really, really like them.

When the SIT's die, I'll replace those with Spector strings. No joke... they are really nice. I have a friend who's an EMG rep and at NAMM he comes over to Spector's both and borrows strings... They're made in the USA to Stuart's very precise standards.
 
Your strap buttons are small because they're designed to work with schaller strap locks.

Yup... you need a set of the locks... Most people sell the guitars with the buttons attached but don't include the locks.

About $20... and you'll be able to Michael Anthony swing that puppy around your neck like an aeroplane... But being you're skinny and it's a heavy bass, you might break your neck...

Yeah... scratch that. Just get the locks for your strap. You're gonna love em.

:D
 
Congratulations! OK. My bolt-on NS-2JA-R has a very similar body/shape/profile to the ReBops... I have no issues with Neck-Dive. And... It came with Dunlop Strap locks, which I personally can't stand... I replaced them with Schallers.

I don't have any issues with the TonePump. There is a trim pot on the actual TonePump which allows you to control output volume. If you want this bass to fall more into line with your others. Take the back plate off and adjust the pot. Put everything back on and test. You may have to do this a few times.

I've never had a TonePump hooked up to passive pups. And the EMG HZ's that come standard on the ReBops are passive. But some people love those. Mike Kroeger of Nickelback orders $$$ custom USA NS-5 models and has Stuart put HZs in them.

To each their own... I had an Aguilar OBP-1 installed in my NS-2A when I put in my active EMGs... and the sound was not satisfactory to me. The old passive P/J's and the Korean HazLab copy sounded better to me. So I dropped a TonePump into it and adjusted the trim pot and NOW it sounds like a Spector should.

So don't be so quick to jump on the TonePump hater wagon. I find that adjusting it from the factory settings helps a lot. They tend to come out of the Czech factory a little hot.

Lastly... GO GET SOME NECK CONDITIONER... Spector recommends Dunlop's #65 products for the necks and bodies of their basses and guitars.

YOUR NECK WILL BE DRY. This happens in the trans-atlantic shipping. So take your strings off... condition the neck and then restring and setup.

Again, congrats. I'm still in the market for a ReBop myself. I've always liked bolt-ons. So it's either a ReBop or a USA NS-2H-FM... and right now I can't afford either...

Rock on!

Actually, it's this bass: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668293

well, I got the bass today, and jammed on it for a while.

It's right on the edge of neck dive......it doesn't freely dive, but if I move a little...it'll feel like it wants to go.

I did a complete resetup and clean up.....plays and sounds much better. Still have a little buzz going on, but I'll have to tweak a little more. I'll probably try some different strings too.

Overall, I like the tone....but it's EXTREMELY different from my Ray, Wick 'vette $$, active J, and Millennium. It's a lot more hi-fi then I expected.

I need to get used to it. tweaking my amp and gear to deal with the output of this bass.
It must be an older model? since I see no trim pot on the preamp "black box".

HA! I'll sell you my Rebop? :D
 
Hi Spector bass owners!

I know this is a long shot, but here goes....

I currently own 2 ReBops and love them!

I am thinking of switching from my current fretless to a Euro fretless.

My problem is that I've never heard one which, before I put down a wad of cash, I would really like to hear.

I live on Long Island in NY and was wondering (here comes the long shot) does anyone in the Tri-State area own a Euro fretless that I could play for a couple of minutes? I'm willing to travel a bit as I'm anxious to place my order and let the wait begin!

Thanks a bunch everyone!
 
Yup... you need a set of the locks... Most people sell the guitars with the buttons attached but don't include the locks.

About $20... and you'll be able to Michael Anthony swing that puppy around your neck like an aeroplane... But being you're skinny and it's a heavy bass, you might break your neck...

Yeah... scratch that. Just get the locks for your strap. You're gonna love em.

:D

Maybe after I add 100 pounds I can do it, but then i'll be old, well past retirement, and unable to lift the thing anyhow! :p
 
Hi Spector bass owners!

I know this is a long shot, but here goes....

I currently own 2 ReBops and love them!

I am thinking of switching from my current fretless to a Euro fretless.

My problem is that I've never heard one which, before I put down a wad of cash, I would really like to hear.

I live on Long Island in NY and was wondering (here comes the long shot) does anyone in the Tri-State area owns a Euro fretless that I could play for a couple of minutes? I'm willing to travel a bit as I'm anxious to place my order and let the wait begin!

Thanks a bunch everyone!

Call Sam Ash in NYC. They are a large Spector dealer and may have one in stock for you to demo if you can't find a private party to help you.
 
Actually, it's this bass: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668293

well, I got the bass today, and jammed on it for a while.

It's right on the edge of neck dive......it doesn't freely dive, but if I move a little...it'll feel like it wants to go.

I did a complete resetup and clean up.....plays and sounds much better. Still have a little buzz going on, but I'll have to tweak a little more. I'll probably try some different strings too.

Overall, I like the tone....but it's EXTREMELY different from my Ray, Wick 'vette $$, active J, and Millennium. It's a lot more hi-fi then I expected.

I need to get used to it. tweaking my amp and gear to deal with the output of this bass.
It must be an older model? since I see no trim pot on the preamp "black box".

HA! I'll sell you my Rebop? :D

Sorry man! I wasn't paying attention. Yup. That's an older Euro CR and has the original TonePump... and that version didn't have the trim. I had an older CR4 that was the same way.

My bad! It's a beaut though. You still might want to condition the neck... I have to with mine every month or so. But of course LA is a dry, desert of a place.
 
My NS5CRFM has worn frets, but that's no surprise seeing as it's older than I am at a minimum. They were made from 85-95, correct?

I was born in 95 so.. :p

And is there any way to date mine? There's no serial or anything, though I do have the "precision crafted under license in the Czech Republic" with Stuart's signature.
Nope. That guitar was made between 1994-1998.
So it's about the same age as you are.

Spector was started in 1976.

From 1985-1990, Spector was owned by Kramer Guitars of Neptune, NJ. They went bankrupt in March of 1990.

Stuart started SSD in 1991 (officially) and the Czech models were introduced in 1994.

Spectors as we know them today (are still SSD Spectors but with the original Spector Trademark) started in 1998.


Sorry, no.
The CR's were started in 93 while still under SSD.

Yours, having the inlays and 35" scale, was made between 99 and 01.

Here (once again) is the history of the Euro/Czech models:

1993 - early 1999
NS-4CR, NS-5CR model numbers.
"SSD" Stuart Spector Design name and logo.
Dot fingerboard markers.
Most had EMG BT active tone controls.
Serial numbers are just 4 digits.

Mid 1999 'transition'.
Continued NS-4CR, NS-5CR model numbers.
Restart original "SS" Spector name and logo.
Addition of mother of pearl crown inlays and 35" scale on 5 strings.
Serial numbers are still 4 digits.

2001
Addition of the Aguilar OBP-1 circuit (at the end of the year).
Serial numbers are started over and have "NB" in front (NBxxxx).
Start model NAMES Euro4/5.

2001, or 2002...sometime early this decade.
Bridge changed to shiny polished gold.
At that time bridge material changed to zinc brass alloy, from solid brass.

2002
Beginning incorporation of the Spector TonePump circuit.

2004
Start of EuroLX models (alder back, walnut slice, maple top).
 
Sorry man! I wasn't paying attention. Yup. That's an older Euro CR and has the original TonePump... and that version didn't have the trim. I had an older CR4 that was the same way.

My bad! It's a beaut though. You still might want to condition the neck... I have to with mine every month or so. But of course LA is a dry, desert of a place.

Spector models and all that is very confusing!!

So it's a Euro CR? What does that mean?

Yup, as part as my welcoming NBD setup, I always clean, oil, wax, and setup new basses.

So the board got some lemon oil, and the body got some Warwick wax. :)
 
Mr. PJ over at Spector says it's a Rebop5DLX made in 2005 before they added the fancier top woods.

He also asked me to relay this message:

"if you are active on Talk Bass please send my best to everyone there, and yes I will be joining that site as as soon as our ALL NEW website is done and live....that should be early next week."
 
I was a little confused by that myself. Your bass is a Rebop DLX 5. There's no official title of "Euro CR" in the Spector vernacular. "CR" only applies to the NS(4 or 5)CR and NS(4 or 5)CRFM.


It's what I get for paying attention. I looked at the first photo and didn't scroll down.

In that first photo you can't see the neck insert.

So I thought it was a neck-thru.

And yes. Things get very confusing. This from the guy whose been going through tons of notes working on a visual gallery of past Spector models.
 
I was a little confused by that myself. Your bass is a Rebop DLX 5. There's no official title of "Euro CR" in the Spector vernacular. "CR" only applies to the NS(4 or 5)CR and NS(4 or 5)CRFM.

I've been abreviating stuff because I don't have a lot of time. Sorry! Just knee deep... actually waist deep in the new Spector site.

Yes. You are correct that there is no Euro CR... My bad. The Czech basses are generally referred to as the Euro bases... I.E. Europe Series Basses. I have the brochures from the early 1990's where that's concerned.

I should have said Europe Series CR bass. Instead my trying to cut down to save time, not look at all the photos to save time, etc... it's given you guys a lot to talk about.

Hopefully the new website will help sort a bunch of this out.
 
Hopefully the new website will help sort a bunch of this out.

Yes, but hopefully the info you gave jarrhead is corrected first.

His is clearly a 35" scale specimen as the inlays are evident. There were no 35" scale CR series 5's from 94-98 as you told him. Only 34" scale 5's with dots (still under SSD).

Stuart was reluctant for a long time to put out a 35" scale import 5 (or 6) because he was unsure of them getting the neck right.

jarrhead's was made between '99 and '01 before the "Euro" models were introduced. I bought mine in '99 when they were changed to the 35"/inlay format.
 
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