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Squier Classic Vibe 2019

#1,601
S.F.Sorrow said:
I wouldn't go quite that far but I totally understand what you mean. Anything Fender is a bit overpriced, even Squier CVs and it didn't exactly help that the earlier genaration Chinese CVs were so amazing. The new CVs felt underwhelming from day1. Not terrible, just slightly overpriced and slightly underwhelming compared to the previous generation of CVs.
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To me they are terrible. I bought one new and it arrived all blemished with unfinished bone nut and bad tuners. Then I bought a body alone (natural 70s Jazz) from TB member @Malak the Mad it was mint new when it arrived and shortly after, the poly was cracking everywhere. Not Malak's fault at all, he clearly gave me a brand new body! :) Bridge was so bad that I threw it away. Only the pickup were correct.
 
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#1,602
S.F.Sorrow said:
I wouldn't go quite that far but I totally understand what you mean. Anything Fender is a bit overpriced, even Squier CVs and it didn't exactly help that the earlier genaration Chinese CVs were so amazing. The new CVs felt underwhelming from day1. Not terrible, just slightly overpriced and slightly underwhelming compared to the previous generation of CVs.
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I had a similar experience playing a 70s Jazz a few weeks ago. It played great and sounded good but my one pet peeve was that the body was natural whitish maple and the neck had been tinted into oblivion and was completely orange. It looked ridiculous. And $450 is pretty steep for what you're getting.
 
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InstantEctobass said:
Vintage Modified from 2013 to 2018 were better: better bridge, better tuners! Even, the finish was better.
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All VM bass has better tuning machine, but only VM PJ and Dimension deluxe has better himass bridge .
The finish on VM bass are good , but there are lot unfine polish sign issue on body paint.
I been own few VM bass, but all VM J I own has few high fret issue and all happened on D and G string after 14th fret . Problem solve after sand the high fret.

Never meet above problem on all china made CV bass include the Samick made indo CV50P I been own ！

I believe the Sterling bass also made from Indonesia Cort, but why most of them has better QC even the cheap SUB bass ？
 
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Yahboy said:
Repeatedly mention again, The Indo CV bass(from Cort factory) just a Rebranded Vintage Modified.

Cv70p and 50P are better QC from Samick.
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Not quite 100% so. When I ran into problems with a bad Indo CV tuner, I tried to temporarily swap it with one of my VM’s tuners but it was too big to fit on the CV.

The VM’s hardware is better. No doubt.
 
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Yahboy said:
How about the china made Paranormal 54J ？ better QC than indo CV J (from Cort factory).
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Where does the assumption come from that a China made bass is going to be better than an Indonesian made bass?
There are some great basses being made in both countries.
I had a China made Warwick which was very well made.
I had a China made Squier Classic Vibe 50's Precision that was very well made but the body was very soft junk wood and the bridge had wonky spacing.
I have a very well made Indonesian Squier (Samick) Classic Vibe 50's Precision from 2019 or 2020 that has a much nicer body than the China version, and has a better Fender spaced vintage bridge.
I have a very well made 2011 Squier Vintage Modified Precision Bass TB ('72 Tele Bass Reissue).
I had a G&L Tribute from Indo that was very well made.
 
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58kites said:
Where does the assumption come from that a China made bass is going to be better than an Indonesian made bass?
There are some great basses being made in both countries.
I had a China made Warwick which was very well made.
I had a China made Squier Classic Vibe 50's Precision that was very well made but the body was very soft junk wood and the bridge had wonky spacing.
I have a very well made Indonesian Squier (Samick) Classic Vibe 50's Precision from 2019 or 2020 that has a much nicer body than the China version, and has a better Fender spaced vintage bridge.
I have a very well made 2011 Squier Vintage Modified Precision Bass TB ('72 Tele Bass Reissue).
I had a G&L Tribute from Indo that was very well made.
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The soft junk wood is basswood, it is soft, it's nothing to see with "China", the bridge had an uncommon string spacing indeed, like some rares series at Fender too. Nonetheless, here we are not talking about specs but finish and quality control.
 
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InstantEctobass said:
The soft junk wood is basswood, it is soft, it's nothing to see with "China", the bridge had an uncommon string spacing indeed, like some rares series at Fender too. Nonetheless, here we are not talking about specs but finish and quality control.
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Yes, I do not care for very soft basswood bodies, screws strip on them very easily.
The non Fender bridge spacing makes it much harder to put a Fender bridge on it, gotta fill the mounting holes and re-drill.
The older Vintage Modified tuners on my 2011 are better than the tuners on my 2019 Classic Vibe 50's.
The new Classic Vibe 50's P from Samick is very nice all around but the neck tint is too much, and the old China made CV 50's necks were very pale white, they look just as wrong.
If I have to choose between the China Classic Vibe 50's and the Indo Samick Classic Vibe 50's I will take the new one from Samick...the body is better wood and the bridge and pickup spacing is correct to Fender standards.
If you change the white pickguard to black on the new Classic Vibe 50's the neck tint looks okay (less orange).
I also like the two color tobacco sunburst finish on the my new CV 50's much better than the pale trans white of the China CV 50's basses, those bodies and necks were too pale, I think.
 
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58kites said:
Where does the assumption come from that a China made bass is going to be better than an Indonesian made bass?
There are some great basses being made in both countries.
I had a China made Warwick which was very well made.
I had a China made Squier Classic Vibe 50's Precision that was very well made but the body was very soft junk wood and the bridge had wonky spacing.
I have a very well made Indonesian Squier (Samick) Classic Vibe 50's Precision from 2019 or 2020 that has a much nicer body than the China version, and has a better Fender spaced vintage bridge.
I have a very well made 2011 Squier Vintage Modified Precision Bass TB ('72 Tele Bass Reissue).
I had a G&L Tribute from Indo that was very well made.
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Just focus on topic,I am talk about china CV vs indo CV on compare.

There are lot great build quality stuff from Indonesia Sterling(by cort), Yamaha, GnL, Ibanez (extremely well on Premium series)..... include the instrument under Cort own brand like Artisan, Jeff Berlin, GB series , Hi end GB custom and awsome build Cort/sanberg Arona I been own before.
 
#1,613
Rnr..........4 said:
Couldn't pay me to buy a China made bass..after Covid and everything else.

Then again what choice do we have these days.
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At least a handful of countries, that have been named in the last page or two, make very nice basses.
Do you think China deliberately sent Covid to your neighborhood? ...time to stop believing that nonsense.
 
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In the last couple years I've bought a Squier James Johnston Signature Jazz, the Precision Bass Five, and the Contemporary Active Jazz Five (sorry I can't remember it they're CV, VM, or what) and IIRC, they're all Indonesian-built.

I'd happily say that for the money they are solid, gig-ready instruments that I've totally enjoyed. I have no illusions they're on par with Corona-built Fender elites or Ultras or any serious money Fender clones, but I will say they are definitely good enough I'd be very hard pressed to explain to myself why I would need to spend twice or three times the money for MIM or some of the lesser American made Fenders.
 
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JW56789 said:
In the last couple years I've bought a Squier James Johnston Signature Jazz, the Precision Bass Five, and the Contemporary Active Jazz Five (sorry I can't remember it they're CV, VM, or what) and IIRC, they're all Indonesian-built.

I'd happily say that for the money they are solid, gig-ready instruments that I've totally enjoyed. I have no illusions they're on par with Corona-built Fender elites or Ultras or any serious money Fender clones, but I will say they are definitely good enough I'd be very hard pressed to explain to myself why I would need to spend twice or three times the money for MIM or some of the lesser American made Fenders.
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Squier JJ sig jazz are born from China......
 
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So I've seen a second hand Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass V five strings for 285€. Made in Indonesia, year 2014. Condition is 9'5/10. This one has '60s pickup spacing and Fender designed pickups, I believe.

So, would you buy it instead of a new Classic Vibe considering that the difference is just 100€? There were some supposed upgrades in the Classic Vibe series but I've been reading the last pages of this post and apparently the VM is better. I just want to be sure one last time before pulling the trigger.

Any opinions on the five string version? It's going to be my first one and I don't know if I will get used to it. If it is a good instrument my plan would be to slowly upgrade every part. Do you think it is a good idea?

Thank you
 
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JW56789 said:
In the last couple years I've bought a Squier James Johnston Signature Jazz, the Precision Bass Five, and the Contemporary Active Jazz Five (sorry I can't remember it they're CV, VM, or what) and IIRC, they're all Indonesian-built.

I'd happily say that for the money they are solid, gig-ready instruments that I've totally enjoyed. I have no illusions they're on par with Corona-built Fender elites or Ultras or any serious money Fender clones, but I will say they are definitely good enough I'd be very hard pressed to explain to myself why I would need to spend twice or three times the money for MIM or some of the lesser American made Fenders.
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Jarto said:
So I've seen a second hand Squier Vintage Modified Jazz Bass V five strings for 285€. Made in Indonesia, year 2014. Condition is 9'5/10. This one has '60s pickup spacing and Fender designed pickups, I believe.

So, would you buy it instead of a new Classic Vibe considering that the difference is just 100€? There were some supposed upgrades in the Classic Vibe series but I've been reading the last pages of this post and apparently the VM is better. I just want to be sure one last time before pulling the trigger.

Any opinions on the five string version? It's going to be my first one and I don't know if I will get used to it. If it is a good instrument my plan would be to slowly upgrade every part. Do you think it is a good idea?

Thank you
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60s pickups placement on VM J5 Vs 70s pickups placement on CV70J5 sure has different in tone. Meanwhile both stock pup also sound different too. i prefer VM70/77 stock J pup which sound meatier and tighter Low end compare to China Cv60J and VM Std J i own in past. The current indo CV60J actually sound pretty similar to discontinued VM Std J which i been side by side compare both at GC.

I suggest you test drive the VMJ5 first if possible. Since it is second hand, we have no idea about the bass condition even seller mention it condition 9.5/10.
 
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