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Squier Jaguar Short Scale Club Part 3

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dewey decibel said:
....vintagey stuff, '60s and '70s ranging from soul and funk to reggae to rock and pop. I was originally thinking flats but I might also be doing some more recent indie rock type things, so it might be worth it get a string that's in-between.
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DeweyDecibel I FEEL the cost of strings! I feel you, man!

This bass needs a FAT E string to remain focused. If you seek vintage tone, and also mention the word reggae, you need FAT FLATS. Have no fear, you CAN get some treble from flat wound strings, actually, you just may need to replace them every year or two, instead of leaving them on for seventeen years at a go.

Welcome to Bass Strings Online - A Bass Store for Bass Players! provides a discount for user of talkbass.com.
Consider it an investment. The tension will not be an issue, I believe, for any of the following options...: $37 maximum.

Dunlop 45-105 SS Flat - Invalid Link Removed
LaBella 52 - 110 SS Flat: Invalid Link Removed I am eyeing these myself!
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Wildcard.... Rotosound 65- 115 WHOA! : Invalid Link Removed
 
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dewey decibel said:
Hey all, just joined. Bought one of these years ago, as a guitarist occasionally playing bass it's perfect for my needs. I've set it up and it plays well for the most part, but I'm getting overtones on the E (which is pretty flubby, tension wise). It's so bad none of the tuners I have will correctly track a note played on that string (either open or fretted). I have the bass side of each pickup about as low as they can go so the pickups being too close isn't the issue. It's got the stock strings, and I think the E is just too thin/low tension, as the other strings sound/feel great. I've read through a lot of this thread (as well as several others) and it seems like this is a fair assessment.

I've been looking at different string sets (not just to fix the overtones, but also to change the sound), and liked the price point of the GHS Precision Flats but then I looked at the gauges. From what I understand the E on the stock set is .95, which is the same on the GHS. It seems there's a lot of options with the E around .100, and a couple with it around .105. The thing is, I'm mainly a guitar player, so I don't want them to be too stiff and I like the way the bass feels now, I just want to get rid of the overtones. So I'm looking for recommendations.

As far as sounds I'm into, mostly vintagey stuff, '60s and '70s ranging from soul and funk to reggae to rock and pop. I was originally thinking flats but I might also be doing some more recent indie rock type things, so it might be worth it get a string that's in-between. Although I have a dislike for Chromes coming from the guitar world I'm open but see the E on those is only .100 (but that might be enough). My front runner right now are the La Bella FL-S, but I'm reluctant to drop $40 for strings on a $150 bass if they're not going to solve the problem. I kind of feel like I might be best served to get a heavier set of cheap roundwounds and use some felt to dampen the strings when I need that flatwound sound (yeah, I'm a broke musician). Any thoughts are appreciated!
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I've been really happy with D'Addario EXL160S nickel wound rounds that have a .105 E string. The fatter E was totally necessary for me - I play with a pick most of the time and lighter strings on the SS were a bit too floppy and the E lacked sustain with .95. All good now. They deaden sort of gracefully to a more muted tone, so if you want a more flat-like tone you can suffer through the first couple weeks or dampen them somehow.
If you really don't like rounds, D'Addario's half-rounds are a nice compromise, though they seemed to go dead too quickly for me.
 
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Can I have a number? :-)
Got this as a backup for my Mustang but have decided I'm going to mod it. I've had to sell on my long scales after surgery, and most of those were heavily modded, and this seems like the perfect candidate for it!

Going to redesign the pickguard to allow for a pickup cover plus top and bottom control plates, put a three-way pickup selector on one control plate and a Hagstrom Swede style three-way Tone switch on the other, change the knobs to master Volume and Tone, and add a series/parallel toggle in the empty hole on the main control plate. Not yet sure whether the pickguard will be black, tortoiseshell or white pearl. Bright side is I can CNC them, plus they won't have any wiring attached to them so can be swapped easily. I'll probably make all three and then pick tbh!

I also want to try replacing the inlays with rosewood dots. I loved the bare board on my old Aerodyne, and I've not replaced inlays before so it'll be fun to learn something new. Then I'm going to paint the headstock black and add a silver decal, like the headstocks on the black or red Jaguar SS's. Finally I'll add a jazz bridge cover because there won't be enough chrome already

Looking forward to starting all that, but I'll have to wait a few weeks as I'm still recovering from surgery (ulnar nerve decompression - FUN) and once I'm recovered I'll have loads of work to catch up on before I can start projects for me. Should be fun though!!!
 
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edsand said:
DeweyDecibel I FEEL the cost of strings! I feel you, man!

This bass needs a FAT E string to remain focused. If you seek vintage tone, and also mention the word reggae, you need FAT FLATS. Have no fear, you CAN get some treble from flat wound strings, actually, you just may need to replace them every year or two, instead of leaving them on for seventeen years at a go.

Welcome to Bass Strings Online - A Bass Store for Bass Players! provides a discount for user of talkbass.com.
Consider it an investment. The tension will not be an issue, I believe, for any of the following options...: $37 maximum.

Dunlop 45-105 SS Flat - Invalid Link Removed
LaBella 52 - 110 SS Flat: Invalid Link Removed I am eyeing these myself!
LaBella 49 -109 SS Flat : [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Wildcard.... Rotosound 65- 115 WHOA! : Invalid Link Removed
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Thanks for the reply. I was originally leaning towards the LaBella FL-S 43-104 set, do you think that isn't thick enough for the E? I see they also have a 45-105 set. I might just message them and see what they recommend.

The thing with treble is, I feel like it's maybe easier to take it away rather than add it, if that makes sense. Then again, I don't know if I need it. I really dislike bright, clanky, "tweeter" type bass tones. I never use the treble pickup on the Jag, but that would probably give me the extra treble I might need with flats.

NickKer said:
I've been really happy with D'Addario EXL160S nickel wound rounds that have a .105 E string. The fatter E was totally necessary for me - I play with a pick most of the time and lighter strings on the SS were a bit too floppy and the E lacked sustain with .95. All good now. They deaden sort of gracefully to a more muted tone, so if you want a more flat-like tone you can suffer through the first couple weeks or dampen them somehow.
If you really don't like rounds, D'Addario's half-rounds are a nice compromise, though they seemed to go dead too quickly for me.
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I use D'Addario EXLs as my go to for general electric guitar strings, but when I was using flats for jazz guitar tones I hated their Chromes and Half Wounds. Now I use pure nickel wound strings for my jazz sounds, was using Thomastiks but they're too pricey so I've just kind of been bouncing from brand to brand. Of course comparing guitar strings to bass strings is like comparing apples and hand grenades, but maybe the EXLs could work (the price is definitely right!). Honestly I just need to get rid of the overtones on the E string, I could probably get what I need tone-wise out of any set of strings.

That reminds me, I know a lot of guys are looking for gigbags for this bass, I found a Road Runner bag that fits my Kay Swingmaster ('50s thinline hollowbody guitar) as well as the SS Jag bass (although fairly snug lengthwise). Bought it locally, and can't find the model online right now as it seems like they've redone the line, but it looks like this:

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I was stoked to find something that could pull double duty, if someone's interested I can measure it to make sure it's the same as one you'd fine online.
 
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Danthedude said:
Can anyone tell me why my jaguar as has 20 frets and my lp triumph has 24? Triumph is 30.375 scale.
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Danthedude said:
....how can they intonate right with roughly the same scale length but a different number of frets?
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If the scale length is the same, then the first 20 frets are at the same measured locations on both instruments, and distance from bridge to nut should also be about the same to intonate correctly, give or take the gauges of the strings.
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