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stage fright

No, Confident I know what I'm doing and if I've prepared well...its going to be ok, or better.
But I do know guys who are affected and one is a classy singer. In terms of singing and the fact that he a really impressive tone in his voice you just can't teach, I'm hugely frustrated he struggles to deliver it and has to have a few looseners before the gig and then the pressure and alcohol get in the way and we are in rescue mode.

We are very reticent to have him on the gig even when he has almost everything ..bar the above... to be in top 5 out of hundreds on the county circuit.
 
When I was younger (middle school/high school) yes. In my professional career? No, with one exception. It was a livestream Christmas gig and the band was informed that there was a substantial number of people standing by to watch. I was nervous for a few minutes but right before the drummer counted off the first tune I said to myself “I got this.” The performance went just fine.

I don’t necessarily get more anxiety, but sometimes feel more frustration in recording situations.
 
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I had some stage fright when I was a beginner and unsure of my abilities. I’m not sure when it ended.

One thing that some of you might find odd is I don’t pay any attention to the audience and haven’t for decades. I focus all my attention on the other players and the music itself. I haven’t gone all Miles Davis yet, turning my back to the audience, but who knows what the future will bring? :whistle:
 
Funny you cited Carly Simon who had debilitating stage fright. I was in her last audience in Pittsburgh back ~80/81. She sang with her back to the audience and invited members to come up and sit on the stage...not kidding. On the way home, radio announced her second show had been cancelled. Subsequent performances were in more intimate settings (Martha's Vineyard, etc.) and recorded.

No stage fright here....audiences are expecting performers to be bigger-than-life.

Riis
I stumbled into irony & didn't even realize it! Carly's stage fright was well known by me but didn't even think about that when I added the link. I figured someone on TB would make the "anticipation" connection and submit the same so thought I'd beat them to it. It was either Carly or Heinz.:smug:
 
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I stumbled into irony & didn't even realize it! Carly's stage fright was well known by me but didn't even think about that when I added the link. I figured someone on TB would make the "anticipation" connection and submit the same so thought I'd beat them to it. It was either Carly or Heinz.:smug:


Yep....10/4/1980 at the Stanley Theater. Coincidentally, I saw Bette Midler a few years later at Heinz Hall and, believe me, she's at the opposite end of the performance spectrum.

Riis
 
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When I started playing back in 1998 it was in a church with 50 members. So the crowd for that service was about 15. My first time playing my knees were shaking so bad I honestly was not sure I would not collapse.

Fast forward to last night. The bass was so loud I had a hard time hearing my own lyrics - and I sing lead! It had to be loud to fill the house properly. Anyway, I made a few boneheaded mistakes and just laughed them off, right there. But what the crowd saw was me having a GREAT time. And that's what they need to see.

This Saturday I'm playing four sets with a group that needed a bass player. They contacted me a week ago. 35 of the songs I've never played before.

It'll be fun! :roflmao::thumbsup:
 
We opened for some pretty big named bands when I was on the road. I couldn't wait for it all to begin each time. Anticipation yes, anxiety yes, definitely. Stage freight, none. I couldn't wait to sing our opening song! I think about it now and get goose bumps.
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Always. It always feels like I've forgotten just about EVERYTHING right before going onstage. Of course, I haven't. But it feels that way.

Several things that are in my pre-gig ritual are:
-BE PREPARED! I practice RELENTLESSLY before a gig.
-NO FOOD OR ALCOHOL! I do NOT want any stomach problems on top of my nerves. Also, was real drunk at one gig, and forgot to tune back up from drop D...played 3 songs in the wrong tuning before I noticed (and we were being recorded, too!).
-SET-UP EARLY! Can't stand being rushed setting things up (usually also brought all the lighting to the gig besides my bass rig/mic/monitor). If something goes wrong, at least I have some extra time built-in to try solving it before starting to play.
 
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i think, as bass players, we're under a lot less pressure.

no surprise then, that most of us don't suffer from this MALADY.

Don't subscribe to this myself.
If I'm not on it, the band suffers, no doubt and conversely if I am on it..and my prep is all about this, then I drive the band and this provides the platform for 3 excellent soloists.
This is what is meant by bands going through the gears, imv.
 
i think, as bass players, we're under a lot less pressure.

no surprise then, that most of us don't suffer from this MALADY.
Not really been my experience. Maybe because I've spent 50-plus years hitting from both sides of the plate on bass and guitar.

If playing bass feels like a relentless obligation to be there on every beat, like a life sentence of quarter notes, maybe you need to look at it differently. It's an opportunity to settle in, shape the dynamics, and ride the wave instead of chasing it. It's not a burden. It's a front-row seat to the groove with a hand on the steering wheel.
 
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Always. It always feels like I've forgotten just about EVERYTHING right before going onstage. Of course, I haven't. But it feels that way.

Several things that are in my pre-gig ritual are:
-BE PREPARED! I practice RELENTLESSLY before a gig.
-NO FOOD OR ALCOHOL! I do NOT want any stomach problems on top of my nerves. Also, was real drunk at one gig, and forgot to tune back up from drop D...played 3 songs in the wrong tuning before I noticed (and we were being recorded, too!).
-SET-UP EARLY! Can't stand being rushed setting things up (usually also brought all the lighting to the gig besides my bass rig/mic/monitor). If something goes wrong, at least I have some extra time built-in to try solving it before starting to play.

All helpful, IME.

Except the no-food rule. Before a 3 or 4 hour gig, I'd rather start with a full tank than spend the last set running on fumes.

And being a spicy-food addict, there's usually a bottle of hot sauce in my gig bag. Some habits are harder to quit than others.
 
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My stage fright doesn't kick in until about 30 minutes before the gig. Early on, I used to go to a quiet corner backstage and play through the key basslines just to reassure myself that I still knew them. That’s improved over the years, though. Nowadays, when it does hit, I just take a deep breath and consciously remind myself that I’m well-prepared. Then it goes away. Before shows, I generally don’t drink more than one or two small beers. I’ve already described in another thread an embarrassing incident from my youth involving large amounts of weed and beer before a gig. An experience that taught me to be sensible about such things early on.
 
Stage fright is a long story for me.

Early on, I’d get hyper-focused before gigs. By downbeat, I’d usually already had a drink and a little weed to take the edge off. It worked, until it didn’t. Over time, that coping mechanism just turned into a problem of its own.

These days I don’t drink or use anything. I changed how I approach the whole thing, starting with gear. At home, everything stays packed in the gig bag and staged in my office. It doesn’t come out unless it’s for maintenance. I’ve got separate home-use cable and tuner so I’m not constantly unpacking the “real” kit.

On gig day, everything gets moved to a single spot by the door - its own little loading bay. Quick visual check. Everything accounted for. Then I load up.

Load-in is the same every time. Same order. Same routine. No thinking required.

That’s the point. Less decision-making, less mental noise before I even get there.

I always arrive early enough to be completely set up at least 30 minutes before downbeat. That buffer is non-negotiable. It gives me time to fully decompress from the drive (about an hour these days), get through load-in and setup, and then just be present in the room well before anything starts. I’ll sit somewhere, talk to whoever’s around - friends, strangers, doesn’t matter. It pulls me out of my head and back into the room, and it also helps naturally ease into crowd connection without forcing it.

Load-out matters just as much - it all contributes to my mind's gig picture. Same routine in reverse. Everything back to its spot at home, ready for the next time. Simple, repeatable. Last step at the venue is always a quick idiot check.

And I make a point, during setup, to step out on stage once. Just stand there, look around, make eye contact, smile. Remind myself it’s just people. Not critics. Just people.
For me, the only things always packed at home are my main amp and my gig bag (stands, power conditioner, etc.) If I need a second amp, I pack that up the evening before. Basses are chosen ahead of time for a gig while practicing; I pack them up after my last practice. My pedalboard goes in its case at that point as well. The wireless transmitters go in that case once charged. So no decisions to be made, just a spread out routine.

I used to wonder why bands didn't want much help, now I get it. Sure, help me carry some stuff in or out, but the only way I know things are as I like them is if I do it. So whether it's coiling cables or putting things into bags or cases, it's all me. And yes to going out oin stage, whether during sound check or not, maybe even interacting beyond eye contact and a smile. My goal is 15 minutes between all checked out and time to play. If more, great, but at least that.

Stage fright? How I got past that is entertaining, but a separate story. Which is ironic since this is a stage fright thread.
 
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