The new trailer does look good. The lack of explosions and screaming crewman being blown out into space is promising.
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Star Trek: Picard
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Alkali Ike
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Someone refresh my feeble memory. Did TNG the TV show have a proper ending? Or was it just kind of left hanging? Is there any value to rewatching the last season of TNG as a refresher before ST: Picard?
And are the TNG movies considered canon? Same question: Any point to rewatching any of the movies before Picard starts?
And are the TNG movies considered canon? Same question: Any point to rewatching any of the movies before Picard starts?
The series finale of TNG was a masterpiece. The four TNG movies are canon. You should at least watch Nemesis since it's the most recent before the setting of the show. The events of the first JJ Abrams movie are also a part of it. Seems to me from the trailer a lot of storylines will be continued. 7 of 9 and the Borg. Spock and Romulus and maybe reunification. You might as well rewatch at least the last few seasons of TNG and some Voyager too. It's not coming out till early 2020 so we have plenty of time.
The TNG movies make significant additions since the end of the TV series. For example, Data dies at the end of "Nemesis" but is replaced with an earlier, less sophisticated, Data prototype.
Having said that, I do believe ST Picard is to be set in the newer, alternate reality created by the events in the movie "Star Trek" (2009) where the planet Vulcan is destroyed, along with most of the Vulcan population.
EDIT: I was wrong about ST Picard being set in the alternate reality. It's set in the prime universe where Vulcan is fine but the planet Romulus is destroyed.
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It's not the alternate reality. Romulus was destroyed in the prime universe which sent Nero and Spock into the Kelvin universe in which Vulcan was destroyed. This show will be in the prime universe.
Basically, Data sacrificed himself to save Picard from his clone who was the leader of the Romulan empire. Data is dead but his memories are transfered into his less advanced brother. So Starfleet and Romulus are on good terms and then some time later Romulus is destroyed and apparently Picard was involved in the relief efforts. Something went bad and he retires and that's where the show begins 20 years after Data died.
They CGI'd the hell out of his face for the two seconds they show in the trailer. That makes me think he won't be there much.
It looks like Brent Spiner will be part of this series. I really don't want to see a bunch of episodes with the character "B-4" (the primitive android prototype built by Dr. Noonuen Soong) stumbling his way through scenes.
Data's body was vaporized. B4 had less advanced hardware? I can't remember. Nemesis ended with Picard walking away from a conversation with him looking like he's being patient with a slow child but then he sings some Blue Skies, implying that Data is in there. So maybe "Data" will be back but all discombobulated like Spock after being resurrected. 7 of 9 is there. I'm sure the TNG cast isn't too busy with other projects. It would be nice to see them all.
I was wondering about that. It seems to me it would be easy for the writers to just have Data decide to alter his face so he could appear to "age" normally. This would be in keeping with his stated ambition to be more human. And it solves the problem of Spiner looking too old.
I just rewatched the movie a few days ago. B-4 was far less capable cognitively than Data. In fact, if judged by human intellectual standards, B-4 would be considered "developmentally disabled". But he seemed to have some specific abilities that Data lacked, such as some inherent musical talent.
Data did have his memories backed up on the Enterprise before he was destroyed, so that does leave open the possibility that they could be uploaded into B-4. I have mixed feelings on that. When they did that trick with Spock, I just couldn't suspend my disbelief at the extent to which they stretched the limits of plausibility with their keeping Spock's katra (his soul) in Bone's head. Vulcans are supposed to be rational beings and this device just reeks of religion and supernatural woo woo.
I would be more open to the idea of restoring Data because he's an android and not a biological being. Logically, if they could transfer Data's memories into B-4, he would still be an android idiot, but just an android idiot with Data's memories. Maybe if they upgraded B-4's positronic brain with the latest technology and then installed Data's memories, I just might buy it.
But this is all just pure speculation. Who knows what they're going to do.
Absolutely. If more of the TNG cast was present, I'd be far more interested.
I'd even be interested to see Wil Wheaton come back as Wesley Crusher. It would be funny to have a middle aged Wesley character (with new writers) be as popular with fans as the child Wesley was hated.
Wheaton himself has somewhat of a cult following for his career since TNG.
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Alkali Ike
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I just watched Nemesis. Before Data was destroyed, he basically transferred his “katra” to B-4. It’s unclear whether B-4 has sufficiently advanced hardware to handle everything though. It looks like it will kind of be like rehabilitating someone who’s had a stroke.
Anyway good call recommending Nemesis as a refresher!
Anyway good call recommending Nemesis as a refresher!
In Enterprise they were mind swapping around the katra of a guy that was dead for thousands of years. It got stuck in Scott Bakula's head for a while. All that is more plausible than when Sarek telepathically connected with Michael Burnham from across the quadrant because she had a piece of his katra.
