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Steinberger Club

#641
Tjluke said:
It is very simple: if the builder, NS in my case, installed an electronics that offer some kind of customization, why do not try different settings?

That's all...
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OK, so you're clearly one of the guys who can't withstand the temptation. "Oh, a knob, let's turn it and see what comes out". Never ever consider traveling to historic places together with Indiana Jones … ;)

In this case you might overlook the possibility that the configuration options are made to match the active electronics board to different instruments (yet to be made). So maybe they aren't made for the "wow, my knob goes to 11" experience :D

Bernd
 
#642
^^^
I agree ;) and starting from now I won't talk anymore about technical question on the NS Radius.

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#645
Tjluke said:
^^^
I agree ;) and starting from now I won't talk anymore about technical question on the NS Radius.

All my images will be deleted in a few moments, so no one will be led into temptation to make some tweek that requires degrees in electronics (that I have) and quantum physics (no, I don't have it :bawl:).
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This wasn't exactly what I meant. There's nothing wrong with finding out details and discussing them. I just tried to explain why it's probably a bad idea for the manufacturer to publish such internals.

I've started my professional "carreer" being the service guy for a company building audio and video studios, later I did repairs for a major music store in Munich. And now, since 1993 I'm a self-employed technical writer and illustrator, creating… guess what… operating instructions and user manuals. I definitely know what kind of guys I'm talking about :D

Bernd
 
#646
Be_eM said:
This wasn't exactly what I meant. There's nothing wrong with finding out details and discussing them. I just tried to explain why it's probably a bad idea for the manufacturer to publish such internals.
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...but as a matter of fact there are other builders that are in business from many years that think different.

Please tell me: people like Ken Smith and Paul Herman are incautious to write on their website detailed instructions for make some tweek on their electronics?

Be_eM said:
I've started my professional "carreer" being the service guy for a company building audio and video studios, later I did repairs for a major music store in Munich. And now, since 1993 I'm a self-employed technical writer and illustrator, creating… guess what… operating instructions and user manuals. I definitely know what kind of guys I'm talking about
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I'm only a fool with a degree in electronics, 25 years in owning and tweeking hi-end basses... :bawl::bawl::bawl:
 
#647
Tjluke said:
Please tell me: people like Ken Smith and Paul Herman are incautious to write on their website detailed instructions for make some tweek on their electronics?
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Not necessarily. Some electronics are designed to be tweaked, some not. And people like you and me won't have a problem doing so. Some others might run into trouble, somewhere, sometimes. Usually those who are the first to sue manufacturers, want refunds, claim that things don't work. That's all :)
 
#648
I guess that experienced Bergheristi in general know what they want and how to get it.
Some go deep in material and electronic understanding and for sure do not spoil the own gear.
I'll be pleased to get new facts on gear in general and specially in all type of Steinbergers.
So please do not delete pics and posts just because a greenhorn might get lost in the electric-compartement...
They'll get all necessary help for sure! :help:
 
#649
While sorting my spare parts... -a set which i bought for a 150€ in Germany in 2002,

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i found this one: (notice the Cort labeling on lower right)

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#650
That gave me the idea for the direct comparison of the Cort/Spirit XT25 and the XL25W hardware, here we go:

Notice the slight difference in letter size and the "TM" placing (more details to follow).
The Steinberger unit has all imperial screw measures, the Cort is all metric.
It was considered strange that "Under License" appeared on Ned Steinberger's original.

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#651
Do Spirits count?

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Since put some D'Addario nickels on it, and cleaned up the fretboard immensely. Considering some tone cavity upgrades, as it sounds really good, but I think it could be a bit fuller.

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#652
Some more on tuners...

The claws seem to be similar, both bronce/brass cast.
The knurl on the original (right) is slightly longer and thinner.
Notice the lacking washer on the Cort, there's none in the unit.
(The springs are on both, -not unmount on the Steinberger.)

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The Saddles:
Left the die cast Cort type (bottom and upper side)
Far right the original off solid steel with stainless inlay.

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#653
The Leg Rests:

The Cort Type (upper on both pics) has beveled holes for the countersunk wood screws and a riveted spring plate.
The Steinberger has sunk holes to take Hex-screws with embedded counter bolts in the body and a bolted spring plate.
Notice the different labelings and leg rest plate specifics.

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#656
cool e-mail from Headless USA,...

Marshall,
Thanks for calling yesterday. What a small world that you bought your Steinberger bass from me about 25 years ago at my Rainbow Music store, and here we meet again. I'll have my secretary take the photos of these white XL2 basses for you tomorrow, and I should be able to organize the descriptions and prices and send it all out to you on Monday. First, a bit about what we do here.......
Hopefully you've had some time to spend looking around on our website. If you have, you should know that much of our success and our "claim to fame" is due to our head technician, Jeff Babicz. If you're not familiar with his work, you can read about him on his website. Just log onto: JeffBabicz.com and click on the Steinberger Sound icon. Jeff worked at the Newburgh, N.Y. factory for 10 years and became the head of production. He is now well-recognized as the best Steinberger tech in the USA, if not the world.
Every bass that we sell is completely mechanically restored and set-up by Jeff Babicz before shipping. This insures that when your bass arrives, it will play and perform perfectly. And, of course, every bass is sold on customer approval. We have never had an instrument returned.
The point is that every bass that we ship will play and perform perfectly, so the differences in our prices are only reflective of differences in rarity and/or cosmetic condition. We currently have 3 original white Steinberger XL2-series basses in stock:
XL2 #4596 White, XL2A #5286 White, and
XL2ADB #6219 White.
Each bass will ship in its original factory logo gig-bag with a new black cotton strap plus a copy of Jeff's work-order.
Jeff and I have both been involved with Steinberger from the days when all of their instruments were brand-new, so we are very spoiled as to cosmetic condition, so most of our instruments range from Exc++ to Near-mint.
Once you've made your selection, I bring your bass to Jeff for restoration and set-up. It is then shipped out to you.
Any questions, please let me know.
Office 845-485-4711
Cell 203-395-8013
********************************Best regards,
*********************************Don Greenwald
 
#657
With the XL25W i did a major deal with Don, to avoid further costs he asked me to send him the money in advance by bank-order.
Well, that made me think twice as one can imagine but after a short call back i considered him trustworthy and sent the order.
A short week later the bass arrived and i was more than satisfied. She was looking all new and i hesitated to make here my working horse.
But since i do not run a museum she became my number 1 gear now, guess some collectors would consider it a sacrilege... :D
All in all i can recommend Don and Jeff at Headless.USA without any reservation, #1 in honesty and also in Carbon work out, anytime!

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#659
HomesickBob said:
Btw Marshall, do you plan to get you a white one... when yes, which of those offered?
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my son wanted some info about them. he loves my white one, although he opted for a 5-string Synapse. i heard that 5W is pretty rare/expensive!:eek: Dan says he believes there were 10-15% original white one's produced. he's asking $3495.00 for the white XL-2 from Newburgh. the XL-2A is $3995.00 and the XL-2ADB is $4495.00!
 

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