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Stoner / Doom Bassist Thread - Part 18

#301
JoeVictim said:
Bass waves don't open up until after about 15 feet or so. That's where the volume is and the idea behind folded cabs. If a bass wave has to travel X number of feet to get loud, the folded horn makes the bass waves travel some of that distance from within the cab creating the louder results sooner. How close do you stand to your rig during practice vs. stage?
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at practice I'm about a foot and a half from my cab, on stage it will vary but it's usually quite a bit further, maybe 4-10 feet. having said that during practice i'll move around, and if i stand facing my cab about 10 feet away, i can barely hear the bass at all, and there is hardly any room-filling low end. on stage when i'm 10 feet way it sounds way better and i can hear everything plus more low end.

it must be how we set up at the jam space. we kind of form a triangle with the drums at the top and the guitar and bass pointed towards the drums from the other two corners. not a lot of space between us, maybe 6-8 feet...
 
#302
ampegfuzz said:
I like the fearful stuff. I think my now NEO loaded 115 still isn't cutting it. I was playing with it yesterday and it seems like the high and high boost did nothing to the tone. Especially after jamming the SVT/810 rig I might get a fearful for the extended freq range or get a different NEO 212 or 410.
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Greenboy continues to release new designs all of the time. I'm sure you could find something that fit your needs.
 
#305
bassboysam said:
at practice I'm about a foot and a half from my cab, on stage it will vary but it's usually quite a bit further, maybe 4-10 feet. having said that during practice i'll move around, and if i stand facing my cab about 10 feet away, i can barely hear the bass at all, and there is hardly any room-filling low end. on stage when i'm 10 feet way it sounds way better and i can hear everything plus more low end.

it must be how we set up at the jam space. we kind of form a triangle with the drums at the top and the guitar and bass pointed towards the drums from the other two corners. not a lot of space between us, maybe 6-8 feet...
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I've experienced this a number of times. I've shows where I was standing in front of my rig, not hearing myself, while people out front we're getting mauled by my bass:bassist: Sometimes it travels differently. I'm sure it has to do more with my deafened ears or the room / set up since it's my understanding that bass is not unidirectional. I'm sure someone has a much more technical answer though
 
#311
For those that have been in bands that have recorded a full length album and had it mixed and mastered without the aid of a record label, can you tell me how much you spent total? I realize this can very greatly depending on what kind of studio you choose, but I am just curious in hearing about your experiences.
 
#315
ampegfuzz said:
Don't knock it unless you try it, I was pretty blown away from the 15/6 like I said earlier. I wanted nothing to do with with NEO cabs. After hearing the cab I did, I had a whole new prospective on those "yuppie" cabs.
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I just think it's ugly ha ha. I'm sure it sounds awesome. Though I abhor crossovers

And it isn't the neo, I've played a guitar cab with neo speakers I really like
 
#316
Lowest End said:
Our most recent album cost about $5000 in production - including tracking, editing, mixing and mastering. CD layout and duplication cost about $2000ish on top of that.
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You're signed to a label though, right? So you didn't front all the costs?

ampegfuzz said:
Don't knock it unless you try it, I was pretty blown away from the 15/6 like I said earlier. I wanted nothing to do with with NEO cabs. After hearing the cab I did, I had a whole new prospective on those "yuppie" cabs.
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Are you calling fearfuls yuppie cabs? The whole idea behind them was any jagoff could build them themselves at cost because the plans were detailed and free =P
 
#318
Lazarus.Bird said:
For those that have been in bands that have recorded a full length album and had it mixed and mastered without the aid of a record label, can you tell me how much you spent total? I realize this can very greatly depending on what kind of studio you choose, but I am just curious in hearing about your experiences.
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Mod Flanders Conspiracy did two records, one was done in like 2 sessions, recorded/mixed/mastered, i think we spent like $1500 but it was definitely not polished and was recorded to DAT before pro tools was a staple. next record was done with Jamie King down in NC, did about 4 days of tracking everything, he spent extra time doing autotuning and clean up of the vocals, then a few days mixing, overall it cost us like $2500 i think.

With psyopus i think our recording budget was 10K and i dont think we used it all, but we got like a 3 week block at a studio in NY. and with the osedax we've never spent anything cause our guitarist records everything for us.

so in short, it varies a lot haha.
 
#319
Lazarus.Bird said:
You're signed to a label though, right? So you didn't front all the costs?



Are you calling fearfuls yuppie cabs? The whole idea behind them was any jagoff could build them themselves at cost because the plans were detailed and free =P
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I think they come across as 'yuppie' because of the accuracy of the design. Guys who mix 2x10's and 15's naturally don't get along with fEARful dudes.

Which is funny. there are a few 2x10 and 15 combinations that work just fine (Mesa comes to mind). Sometimes fEArful guys just can't let it go (I am guilty of this at times, too). But no one wants to be told their rig is f'd up.
 

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