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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Sweet! I will quote drummer Rob Davis' verse from the excellent autobiographical song "Born to Rock and Roll" by local (sadly defunct) stoner punk legends Smoky Mountain Skullbusters:
"I was born in Mesa, Arizona
Some say it's a boring sh!thole
But I know what I'll stay here for
I was born, born to rock and roll".

Mr. Davis has since moved to Portland, OR :p

Mesa is a perfectly fine place to live, FWIW :)

Ha! I was in Portland from 2009-2013. I liked Oregon, but I think I prefer AZ.

I know Mesa is nice. I lived closer to Flagstaff, but I got all over the state during the 2-3 years I was there in the 90s.

Every time I pass through AZ I want to stay.

I've also put in for jobs in Scottsdale, Lake Havasu City and Globe.

Always thought the people in AZ were the coolest, but the cops and politics sucked, at least when I lived there.

Maybe it's because there are so many older neo-con snowbirds who outvote the laid back and younger people?
 
Ha! I was in Portland from 2009-2013. I liked Oregon, but I think I prefer AZ.

I know Mesa is nice. I lived closer to Flagstaff, but I got all over the state during the 2-3 years I was there in the 90s.

Every time I pass through AZ I want to stay.

I've also put in for jobs in Scottsdale, Lake Havasu City and Globe.

Always thought the people in AZ were the coolest, but the cops and politics sucked, at least when I lived there.

Maybe it's because there are so many older neo-con snowbirds who outvote the laid back and younger people?

There is a really interesting(probably the coolest aspect of my field) and outstanding paying job in my field in Las Vegas that I am considering putting in for but never even been to the desert and not the partier type but seems like there are some outdoor recreational activities there in the non-brutal weather months. Cost of living seems about the same as where I live now too.
 
There is a really interesting(probably the coolest aspect of my field) and outstanding paying job in my field in Las Vegas that I am considering putting in for but never even been to the desert and not the partier type but seems like there are some outdoor recreational activities there in the non-brutal weather months. Cost of living seems about the same as where I live now too.

Well, desert life is maybe going to be an adjustment. Las Vegas life doubly so. I love Nevada too...Vegas and Reno are very cool to visit. I don't know how it would be to live there. I really like Elko, but it's more lush and small and isolated.

I wish you luck if it is the way the universe is supposed to unfold for you.

I gotta shake things up with a big location and job change every three years apparently. But I'm nearing the age where I want to settle, and I don't really want to be a permanent Okie.

Maybe in the future we can have a desert rat TB get-together.

What field are you in again?
 
Well, desert life is maybe going to be an adjustment. Las Vegas life doubly so. I love Nevada too...Vegas and Reno are very cool to visit. I don't know how it would be to live there. I really like Elko, but it's more lush and small and isolated.

I wish you luck if it is the way the universe is supposed to unfold for you.

I gotta shake things up with a big location and job change every three years apparently. But I'm nearing the age where I want to settle, and I don't really want to be a permanent Okie.

Maybe in the future we can have a desert rat TB get-together.

What field are you in again?

Geography GIS. The way I get air pressure induced migraines Las Vegas isn't much better then Virginia for me health wise. I think AZ low to mid-lands is the healthy spot for me anyway. The job is remote sensing for water districts which would be a trip but after doing some spreadsheet work on the weather data of Las Vegas I would still be in migraine misery there. And if my mind fights me I won't be easily leanring/doing advanced GIS work in a new branch of the field. So just a pipe dream I guess.
I am in a catch 22 at my current job because I learned it before the migraines took over so it is old hat most of the time and I get away with lazying out when a migraine hits because I always stay ahead of my work and several of my fellow co-workers suffer with them as well and are in the same boat as me. So the fear of trying something new and my mind not being up to task or possibly ending up working for dick's clips my job hunting thoughts a lot.
 
No bringing this up to be political, just for a Friday morning giggle.
I had one of those weird moments like when you are trying to have a conversation with a person with a lazy eye and you keep telling yourself, don't stare at that loose eye, just stare at their forehead, but you have to stare at the train wreck, you just have to, and the theme song to Popeye the Sailor Man is playing in your mind. Well this is my morning:
An older high-energy black gentleman needed an address for his property, a history buff with civil war soldiers buried on his property. So a fun chap to chat with. Before he left, he stated about the world going nuts, and if some know-it-all tries to take the Confederate Flag down off of his property they will be looking at the barrel of his vintage cannon. Things that make you go hmmm, but still make you giggle!!!
 
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There is a really interesting(probably the coolest aspect of my field) and outstanding paying job in my field in Las Vegas that I am considering putting in for but never even been to the desert and not the partier type but seems like there are some outdoor recreational activities there in the non-brutal weather months. Cost of living seems about the same as where I live now too.

Apply for the job. What is the worst that can happen? They say no? So you are at the same place as you are now.

They could say yes though. Worry about the implication when that happens.
 
I'm terrified to leave my job. I love the company and make enough to pay my bills, but the hours, stress and pay don't really equal out. I try not to worry about that though because I can pay my bills and do love my work. However I have a BA in sociology and no real experience outside of retail beyond what I've gained at the current spot. Yeah, I've proven myself as a leader and an effective producer in a manufacturing environment, but I'm not sure how that would translate into any other manufacturing type gig. My ADD is bad enough that any gig behind a computer is really out of the question. I fall asleep and get distracted way to easily. Not that it's an ideal example, but if I try to read a book or article I can get about 5 or 6 pages in before I start to nod or start counting pages until a stopping point. I have the focus of a goldfish. So something physical where I am constantly moving and doing something with my hands is where I excel.
 
Money isn't the be-all-end-all, yo. If you have a good gig, I'd be real leery about doing an across the country trek.

It's true what you say about money, but you also have to make enough to live. Currently I do not. I fall further behind every month. I am responsible for four people.

I have worked two jobs plenty in my life and would do so again now, but I honestly don't think my health could take it.
 
Summer gigs here at last, been a six week break!
 

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Damn, I had like 3 good riff ideas a week when we weren't doing new songs. Now I can't come up with one. Hope my new dirtboxes come soon, I need a New Pedal Therapy to cure the writer's block :D
Not the best way to deal with the issue I guess, but hell, it's fun at least.

Re: work, I'm a freelancer, so I can work my ass off for a good few months (like I did from November to May) just to sit and pick my nose for the next part of a year (like now, and probably until September) to work my ass off again for a few months and so on. Needless to say, it kinda gets pretty nerve wracking at times. I've been doing it for 6 years now, I'm trying to get more stable job right now, but turns out it's not as easy as it seemed.
Oh well, at least I get a Spring break :D
 
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I'm terrified to leave my job. I love the company and make enough to pay my bills, but the hours, stress and pay don't really equal out. .... So something physical where I am constantly moving and doing something with my hands is where I excel.


I get this, but I will tell you what 20+ years in the working world has taught me: shag you, pay me. Pretty much any employer will take as much as they can, for as little as they can pay. Clearly you're more than pulling your weight, so it needs to be reflected on payday.

I look back at the jobs I had where I was super devoted and worked my life away, and the ones where I've skated, and one common denominator applies- they are all still there, still making money for other people, almost as if I wasn't as special as I thought I was.
 
I get this, but I will tell you what 20+ years in the working world has taught me: **** you, pay me. Pretty much any employer will take as much as they can, for as little as they can pay. Clearly you're more than pulling your weight, so it needs to be reflected on payday.

I look back at the jobs I had where I was super devoted and worked my life away, and the ones where I've skated, and one common denominator applies- they are all still there, still making money for other people, almost as if I wasn't as special as I thought I was.

I think it was @Corey Y who was talking about this a few weeks back. The way society has moved from "I am growing these carrots because I will eat them and use them to feed my family" to "I am reading these meters to make money for my supervisors who will then pay me so that I can then go to the store and buy carrots that I will eat and feed my family with."

I am paraphrasing, but I think that was the gist of it. And it's so focking true.

Ender, I've been in the "official" (on payroll) workforce for 32 years and worked for 3-4 years before that mowing lawns, bagging groceries for cash, throwing newspapers. I very often held two jobs and worked 70-80 hours per week with no days off for months at a time. I totally agree with the "F.U., pay me" sentiment. Unfortunately, I work in one of those "right-to-work" states (what a BS ironic name for that) where workers have ZERO rights.

In Oklahoma, you can be fired for any reason, or no reason at all. Your employer isn't obliged to give you any reason or advance notice whatsoever, and you have no legal recourse.

The ONLY exceptions to this are if you are fired without verifiable cause (like a paper trail showing you'd been reprimanded a number of times, poor evaluations/performance reviews, etc.) after you've filed a Worker's Comp claim OR if you were fired because your employer believed you were going to be a whistleblower and expose some evil chit they were doing. Then it is possible (slight possibility) of having some legal avenue to pursue against wrongful termination.

Other than that, it's cup your balls and say bye-bye.

Though I've never had to do it, I understand it is also like pulling teeth in this state to receive unemployment benefits. So essentially you could work for a company or organization for X number of years, then for any reason or no reason--ostensibly including a scenario in which a new manager comes in who just happens not to like the looks of you--be called in to an office and told to pack up your desk and get out. And the money just stops.

There are also next to NO unions in Oklahoma because, of course, for a lowlife grunt worker of any kind to have any rights or protections would be nothing but wicked Communism.

And yet the vast majority of Okies are poor, working class people. But of course they vote against their own interests because most are too dimwitted to realize they are being duped and treated like cattle. The batsh!t crazy legislators in this state make the masses believe if they vote for anyone other than the most staunch neocon fundamentalist wackadoos then they are anti-American haters of baby Jesus.

I'm usually pretty apolitical. But sometimes I do get worked up about stuff that seems SO unjust and clearly in need of rethinking and overhauling.

The more I think about it, the more I look forward to moving back out of Oklahoma. There are many great, forward-thinking, interesting, intelligent and fun people here, but their voices are overwhelmed by people with very Dark Ages, fire-and-brimstone, puritanical outlooks on things.

I think the thing that galls me the most is that the neocons float the idea that they are the party of "small government" yet they clearly want to dictate how everyone else lives according to their own moral code or religious beliefs. It couldn't possibly be MORE invasive and intrusive than to try to dictate which consenting adults can marry each other or what a woman does regarding her personal reproductive choices. Not to mention this will likely be the LAST state to legalize weed and it already has so many blue laws/sin taxes in place it's ridiculous.

Tattoo parlors were illegal in Oklahoma until 2006. Car dealerships are all closed on Sundays. It's just a bass-ackwards place in so many ways.

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I think it was @Corey Y who was talking about this a few weeks back. The way society has moved from "I am growing these carrots because I will eat them and use them to feed my family" to "I am reading these meters to make money for my supervisors who will then pay me so that I can then go to the store and buy carrots that I will eat and feed my family with."

I don't think I said anything about carrots, but who can keep track?

For the record: Carrots.

I call this the "Turning Dirt into Playstations" explanation of economics :)
 

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