Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[beebassdude]

Getting all the nitty gritty visual stuff hashed out with Nick for the 300W Dunwich head.

Whoever asked about it at the end of the last thread (Sartori?)...It's a 4x KT88 power section, with Hiwatt style transformers and Traynor/Marshall style phase inverter. I'm spacing on the preamp design at the moment, because we discussed all the details a while ago. It's going to be gain-bass-treb-mid-mid freq, slave input if I want to use it as a power amp, and a master volume. Master volume is in case I want to also use it with guitar from time to time and want more power tube crunch. For the most part it's going to be used as a mostly clean pedal platform.

I'm spacing on a lot of the details at the moment, so many little mods and mixing and matching circuit ideas discussed over a long period of time, mostly last year. Hopefully the man himself will chime in.

i saw the front panel, pretty funny lol.

 

[Lazarus.Bird]

thank god we got the thread # sorted out. didn't want another time loop.

 

[Squanch72]

Someone probalby mentioned Enos before but enjoying their Pink FLoydy vibe this rainy afternoon

http://stargunmusic.bandcamp.com/album/all-too-human

 

[CL400Peavey]

Cool. Didn't know you were looking.

Always looking for advancement. I have been with this company for almost three years. I had a great review and decent bonus. I am disappointed in the yearly "raise" I got as it was so minimal it doesnt matter. This interview kind of fell in my lap. So I will see what they have to say and offer.

 

[Corey Y]

i saw the front panel, pretty funny lol.

It's all in flux right now. Originally it was going to be a full plexi face plate, ORMAT kinda thing. We're hashing out a different idea right now. It's stilled called Mr. Grumpy though.

 

[Korladis]

Hi everybody!

No screamers, shouters, growlers, we're going to be looking for someone that can actually sing.

I can't sing for ****, neither can our drummer so it looks like we're going search for a new person. I'm against bringing in another person, so is our drummer but there's really not much we can do about it.

It's also been suggested that we take a break from playing shows while the search happens - which is just a bad idea for so many reasons - especially with touring season starting up again.

It's beyond my control - part of the reason I'm looking to start another project.

Singing isn't actually that hard, though. I just don't get how it's so common that a bunch of musicians will think that somehow none of them are even capable of singing. I can understand not liking the tone of one's own voice, but not being able to sing? That's strange to me.

 

[mbelue]

Always looking for advancement. I have been with this company for almost three years. I had a great review and decent bonus. I am disappointed in the yearly "raise" I got as it was so minimal it doesnt matter. This interview kind of fell in my lap. So I will see what they have to say and offer.

Video interview. So not local?

 

[Pelham Bleu]

thank god we got the thread # sorted out. didn't want another time loop.

or two parallel threads like that schism way back when.

 

[Pelham Bleu]

Singing isn't actually that hard, though. I just don't get how it's so common that a bunch of musicians will think that somehow none of them are even capable of singing. I can understand not liking the tone of one's own voice, but not being able to sing? That's strange to me.

For me it's singing and playing at the same time that's the issue. I have to strip the playing down on the songs I sing lead, then I can ramp it up a bit when my guitarist is singing.

 

[dunwichamps]

The first 2 gain stages are right out of my DA120 but without the Depth control then its the active mid range control from Ron's Ampeg channel preamp but with more guitar centered mid ranges then into the Master and the LTPI. Class AB2 coupling for the 6 KT88s. DR405 style.

 

[Squanch72]

For me it's singing and playing at the same time that's the issue. I have to strip the playing down way back on the songs I sing, then I can ramp it up a bit when my guitarists is singing.

Closest thing I got to singing and playing at the same time is when Micah is doing the pedal assistant thing and I am trying to keep a riff going and want him to try a different one and it feels like brain rape. I guess I should try and sing it to the riff, Micah turn on the blue one, now add in the phas---er dun dun dun

 

[Corey Y]

The first 2 gain stages are right out of my DA120 but without the Depth control then its the active mid range control from Ron's Ampeg channel preamp but with more guitar centered mid ranges then into the Master and the LTPI. Class AB2 coupling for the 6 KT88s. DR405 style.

^ Yeah, what he said.

 

[Blank_0101]

For me it's singing and playing at the same time that's the issue. I have to strip the playing down on the songs I sing lead, then I can ramp it up a bit when my guitarist is singing.

Ditto, I figured the bass vi would let me play whatever part was easiest to sing to.

 

[Korladis]

Speaking of singing anyone hear the new The Wounded Kings stuff yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diOaWezEJTs

Sharie is so awesome. Definitely one of my favorite female doom vocalists.

I like it quite a bit more than previous stuff I've heard by them. Pretty cool.

Getting all the nitty gritty visual stuff hashed out with Nick for the 300W Dunwich head.

Whoever asked about it at the end of the last thread (Sartori?)...It's a 4x KT88 power section, with Hiwatt style transformers and Traynor/Marshall style phase inverter. I'm spacing on the preamp design at the moment, because we discussed all the details a while ago. It's going to be gain-bass-treb-mid-mid freq, slave input if I want to use it as a power amp, and a master volume. Master volume is in case I want to also use it with guitar from time to time and want more power tube crunch. For the most part it's going to be used as a mostly clean pedal platform.

I'm spacing on a lot of the details at the moment, so many little mods and mixing and matching circuit ideas discussed over a long period of time, mostly last year. Hopefully the man himself will chime in.

Interesting. Bax tone stack?

thank god we got the thread # sorted out. didn't want another time loop.

Yeah, sorry about that.

For me it's singing and playing at the same time that's the issue. I have to strip the playing down on the songs I sing lead, then I can ramp it up a bit when my guitarist is singing.

This is true. I tend to write simpler bass lines in 5th Child stuff where I know I'm going to be singing. Or simple vocal lines.

The first 2 gain stages are right out of my DA120 but without the Depth control then its the active mid range control from Ron's Ampeg channel preamp but with more guitar centered mid ranges then into the Master and the LTPI. Class AB2 coupling for the 6 KT88s. DR405 style.

Very nice.

I had wanted to ask you about how Sound City amps were set up. Were they all FMV EQ, or did they have different ones depending on model? Are they as clean as Hiwatts or do they get grittier sooner?

 

[Rushing]

I wish I could sing and play at the same time. I can't even play and talk.

 

[ampegfuzz]

I can yell and play, lol

 

[beebassdude]

i have no problem singing and playing as long as there isnt a lot of ghost note kinda stuff or odd rhythms i have to play. then i **** myself up lol

 

[Pelham Bleu]

This is true. I tend to write simpler bass lines in 5th Child stuff where I know I'm going to be singing. Or simple vocal lines.

I guess given the choice, I'd prefer a more complex vocal line over a simpler bass line than a simple vocal line over a complex bass line. People in the audience tend to pick up on the former more, IMO.

 

[Pelham Bleu]

I can yell and play, lol

Yell 1st, play 2nd.

 

[Corey Y]

I can sing and play no problem, always been able to. I can do screamy vocals or clean singing too, I sang Sinatra for my wife at our wedding reception. Vocals are actually the first thing I ever did in a band and the thing that's easiest for me. I haven't sang in a band in years though, because I have zero ideas for lyrics anymore. That's why I haven't finished the demo tracks I recorded end of last year.