Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[kleinenenten]

Look for a used HA4700 (discontinued) or a new HA8000 (current model).

I'm sure you know, but don't run tube amps without a load unless they're designed for that.

In looking at the manual, I'm confused as to how this works. I need to be able to hook up at least 3 signals from 3 amps and have them mixed down into one signal that is then sent to 3 headphones. I get the headphone part, and like that each one has separate controls, but I don't see how I'd get all 3 amp signals into the unit. Am I missing something? The end result I'm going for is totally silent practicing, but using our rigs to do so. Thanks as always.

 

[kleinenenten]

Ok, I think I have it figured out. I need a small mixer to go down to one signal to feed the HA4700. Something like this?

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[Korladis]

I've been thinking about making some comparison recordings of all my basses.

But I'm lazy.

 

[Blank_0101]

Ok, I think I have it figured out. I need a small mixer to go down to one signal to feed the HA4700. Something like this?

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I got a nady one for like $19.99 , behringer makes them too.

 

[bassboysam]

well we're done mixing the album, took about 40 hours. should have some artwork soon and then off to the presses. if we're lucky we'll have everything ready to go for November.

 

[The_Janitor]

In looking at the manual, I'm confused as to how this works. I need to be able to hook up at least 3 signals from 3 amps and have them mixed down into one signal that is then sent to 3 headphones. I get the headphone part, and like that each one has separate controls, but I don't see how I'd get all 3 amp signals into the unit. Am I missing something? The end result I'm going for is totally silent practicing, but using our rigs to do so. Thanks as always.

Sorry, yeah you still need a mixer with the headphone amp. I was thinking of something like this:

Behringer Xenyx Q802USB Mixer

But a small line mixer like this one might work just fine:

Behringer MICROMIX MX400 4-Channel Line Mixer

 

[Blank_0101]

Nady MM-141 4-Channel Mini Mixer

The one I bought, runs off boss 9v, I notice the behringer said 12v

 

[kleinenenten]

Sorry, yeah you still need a mixer with the headphone amp. I was thinking of something like this:

Behringer Xenyx Q802USB Mixer

But a small line mixer like this one might work just fine:

Behringer MICROMIX MX400 4-Channel Line Mixer

The Micromix seems like a powered version of the DOD 240. Mix spring for that, but they both seem like they would work. Thanks for the help, guys!

 

[Blank_0101]

Anyone heard of the Toyota Previa? About to go check out a 1992 full wheel drive model.

Basically it's an 1992 all wheel drive minivan, with its engine under the drivers seat and only 3 doors and a hatchback.

Guy has one 8 min away cheap so gonna go look. If it lives, it'd be a great vehicle to turn into a mini camper that can go anywhere other than rock hopping.

Edit: So the things worse off than I thought. Not really looking to buy it. It needs a battery to start, and drive away in the first place.

That said its been listed a month, the guy says he moved and its sitting at his old place and they want to tow and he can't deal with it. So basically it's just sitting with the keys in it near my house and he says it needs to move if I can get it started... Just don't know can't figure out what this guy might want or if he's just trying to say get it gone from the yard.

 

[Corey Y]

I saw Crowbar last night, been waiting 20 years for that! Their tone and performance were great, had fun hanging out with my best buddy I don't get to see enough as well.

 

[Korladis]

Finished overdubbing upright bass tracks this week. All that's left for the album is piano, guest violin, and vocals. And mixing, of course.

 

[The_Janitor]

I saw Crowbar last night, been waiting 20 years for that! Their tone and performance were great, had fun hanging out with my best buddy I don't get to see enough as well.

Oh man, saw them a bunch in the 90s and early 00s, always incredibly heavy live. Nice guys too.

 

[Blank_0101]

Anyone ever listed something on reverb, forgot and then it sells and you don't have it anymore?

Gotta figure that out...

 

[The_Janitor]

I've sold something locally via CL then had someone buy it on reverb 10 minutes later. I just refunded their money immediately, sent a message saying it sold locally and apologized. No negative feedback so I guess the guy wasn't too pissed.

 

[Blank_0101]

I've sold something locally via CL then had someone buy it on reverb 10 minutes later. I just refunded their money immediately, sent a message saying it sold locally and apologized. No negative feedback so I guess the guy wasn't too pissed.

Is the refund started via reverb support, myself or a pay pal dispute?

 

[The_Janitor]

Is the refund started via reverb support, myself or a pay pal dispute?

There's a way to do it via the dashboard, I think if you look at transaction history you can find the way to do it, it's pretty simple.

 

[kleinenenten]

What's the difference between a built in DI or Line Out in an amp and a regular, plug it between amp and cab DI? I'm trying to get recording going on the cheap. Also, is it normal for a DI to have some sort of cab sim (or at least make a cab sim unnecessary), or is that a feature that I should see advertised? I know going direct from an amp can make distortion harsh, and obviously want to avoid that. Thanks as always, Doombros.

 

[The_Janitor]

Most pro audio DIs will not have a cab sim.

Difference between amp di and separate di, some amp DIs can be set to post eq, which can help with the harshness of distorted tones.

Most pro audio DIs don't go between your amp and cab, they're usually set up pre pedal board and amp so the sound guy has a clean signal to work with.

There are speaker level DIs that go between head and cab - that lets your send your amp EQ'd signal to the pa - but they are not the standard and I'm not sure if they can stand up to a high power bass amp.

 

[kleinenenten]

Most pro audio DIs will not have a cab sim.

Difference between amp di and separate di, some amp DIs can be set to post eq, which can help with the harshness of distorted tones.

Most pro audio DIs don't go between your amp and cab, they're usually set up pre pedal board and amp so the sound guy has a clean signal to work with.

There are speaker level DIs that go between head and cab - that lets your send your amp EQ'd signal to the pa - but they are not the standard and I'm not sure if they can stand up to a high power bass amp.

Aaaaaaand that's why I asked. Good to know. So if I want to record our tones, the easiest way is the built in amp DI/Line Out? Each amp used in my band has one, and they all drive our PA fine, so I assume they'd drive an interface, right? Only my bass amp has the pre/post options, so I'll dig up manuals on the others and see what they say about their line outs. Hopefully, they're post EQ. Thanks again.

Edit/Update: The guitar rigs don't say post EQ, but they say they're designed to sound like a miked cab, so I would think they're post EQ. Great! My bass rig does not specifically say it is supposed to sound like a miked cab, but it does say post EQ. Weird.

 

[The_Janitor]

Aaaaaaand that's why I asked. Good to know. So if I want to record our tones, the easiest way is the built in amp DI/Line Out? Each amp used in my band has one, and they all drive our PA fine, so I assume they'd drive an interface, right? Only my bass amp has the pre/post options, so I'll dig up manuals on the others and see what they say about their line outs. Hopefully, they're post EQ. Thanks again.

Edit/Update: The guitar rigs don't say post EQ, but they say they're designed to sound like a miked cab, so I would think they're post EQ. Great! My bass rig does not specifically say it is supposed to sound like a miked cab, but it does say post EQ. Weird.

Well, no guitarist wants to send a purely clean signal to the PA so stating that they're designed to sound like a miked cab makes good marketing sense.

The line/direct outs from your amps should work with an interface just fine - however it's not going to sound exactly like your amp in a room would. Not having the cab in chain makes quite a difference. You can try to correct that with a room ambience or cab sim plug-in after the fact or go back to microphones on cabs.

Post is EQ is good for your bass amp, though if you're recording you may want to record a separate purely clean track. That way you can blend it back in to retain the full low end that may be lost or reduced due to dirt pedals.