Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[lucas303]

I feel like I've got another year-and-a-half of Denver in me. So hey a spot will be opening up!

 

[kleinenenten]

I have some laying around. I'll find them and let you know what I have. What are you looking for/ what will fit?

Thanks! I’ll look back at my install instructions and see what I need. I’ll get back to you ASAP.

 

[cornfarmer]

Ahhh, I admit I'd move to Santa Cruz in a heartbeat. Or at least the mountains outside of it, but the family is here for better or worse.

I lived in those mountains for a while before I got hitched. Nice if you can afford it (it's actually one of the few cheaper areas, but it's still sheetballs crazy expensive)....nice if you don't need to go into town in a hurry...the one or two highways connecting SC with the rest of the bay area are hopelessly overburdened, but that can be said for all the roads here, we're sooooo f'ing full it's not even funny.

We're entertaining getting out, because even with two full-time California incomes, we can't really buy a house that isn't a 1 mil sheetbox fixer upper. ******** real estate.

Got a phone interview soon for a job in San Diego, which was the first town I lived in out here.....it would be a improvement.....still pricey, but not as much, and you can get more for your dollar. Plus the weather is killer and you're not sitting in traffic just to get to the ocean.

 

[kleinenenten]

So, with a dead pickup, and plans to shield my bass anyway, I guess I’ll shield the main cavity AND the pickup cavities. I have to run a wire from the pickup cavities to the main cavity and have it soldered at both ends, correct? Just trying to do this right the first time. I've heard some conflicting info on how to shield and even what to shield. Some people have said not to worry about active electronics at all, me say the pup cavities don’t matter... figure I’ll do it all and hopefully have the quietest bass in existence.

 

[Kriegs]

So, with a dead pickup, and plans to shield my bass anyway, I guess I’ll shield the main cavity AND the pickup cavities. I have to run a wire from the pickup cavities to the main cavity and have it soldered at both ends, correct? Just trying to do this right the first time. I've heard some conflicting info on how to shield and even what to shield. Some people have said not to worry about active electronics at all, me say the pup cavities don’t matter... figure I’ll do it all and hopefully have the quietest bass in existence.

It's true, many active systems don't require shielding. In fact, most (if not all) active EMG's don't even come with a ground wire.
IMHO, if you're going to shield one part of a passive system, you kinda have to do the whole thing, otherwise the whole thing isn't, you know, shielded, lol. If you can't route the tape through channels (like a p-bass) or if the route that the pickup wires follow doesn't allow you to use tape (drilled holes), then yeah, you just need to make little (insulated!) jumper wires to run through and solder to create one continuous path to your ground point.

 

[br1qbat]

I lived in those mountains for a while before I got hitched. Nice if you can afford it (it's actually one of the few cheaper areas, but it's still sheetballs crazy expensive)....nice if you don't need to go into town in a hurry...the one or two highways connecting SC with the rest of the bay area are hopelessly overburdened, but that can be said for all the roads here, we're sooooo f'ing full it's not even funny.

We're entertaining getting out, because even with two full-time California incomes, we can't really buy a house that isn't a 1 mil sheetbox fixer upper. ******** real estate.

Got a phone interview soon for a job in San Diego, which was the first town I lived in out here.....it would be a improvement.....still pricey, but not as much, and you can get more for your dollar. Plus the weather is killer and you're not sitting in traffic just to get to the ocean.

If one doesn't mind snow (potentially) 5 months of the year ( hahaha), out here in Michigan we have lots of beaches the rival anyones (on the lakes, so no sharks!). I'm moving out of the metro area (hopefully, we have an offer on a house) soon. I am needing a seriously bigger house, and where I'm at now (St. Clair Shores) doesn't have many 5 bedroom homes in the non-millionaire price range.

 

[hardtop]

A satin black Sandberg Grand Dark was delivered last night. Plays amazing. Haven't been able to plug it in to the rig yet, but expecting it to sound excellent like all the samples I've heard. I love the neck shape. the fret work and setup was spot on. This one is a bit heavier than expected, but the build is excellent. Stoked to run it into the orange head/cab and move some bowels.

 

[socialleper]

I had a satin black Sandberg Grand Dark delivered last night. Plays amazing. Haven't been able to plug it in to the rig yet, but expecting it to sound excellent like all the samples I've heard. I love the neck shape. the fret work and setup was spot on. This one is a bit heavier than expected, but the build is excellent. Stoked to run it into the orange head/cab and move some bowels.

Pics?
Interesting design. That could potentially fill the niche my Lakland 44-02 fills right now.

 

[hardtop]

I already dropped it by the luthier this morning. It was setup for drop D when it arrived, and REALLY played beautifully there. However, when I dropped her down to our tuning, that 105 was like a wet noodle. So my guy is setting it up with my strings and tuning. The point of all that is; I can't snap pics right now but will try to do so tonight when I pick her up.

Yeah man, the 35" scale is a life saver for me. Im a lakland fan too. in fact, my lakland 5 string is what got me into the longer scale bsses. The lakland P was one of the finer instruments I've ever owned... this is honestly in that ball park for sure. But with a better bridge and tuners, and a plek'd fretboard that's as sweet as the Lakland. Anyway, check one out if you have a chance... you can also order a semi custom version of all their basses. spec-ing wood and colors and all that.

 

[socialleper]

I already dropped it by the luthier this morning. It was setup for drop D when it arrived, and REALLY played beautifully there. However, when I dropped her down to our tuning, that 105 was like a wet noodle. So my guy is setting it up with my strings and tuning. The point of all that is; I can't snap pics right now but will try to do so tonight when I pick her up.

Yeah man, the 35" scale is a life saver for me. Im a lakland fan too. in fact, my lakland 5 string is what got me into the longer scale bsses. The lakland P was one of the finer instruments I've ever owned... this is honestly in that ball park for sure. But with a better bridge and tuners, and a plek'd fretboard that's as sweet as the Lakland. Anyway, check one out if you have a chance... you can also order a semi custom version of all their basses. spec-ing wood and colors and all that.

I had a 55-02 that was really nice. The longer scale was great but the neck was just too thick. I had to sell it.
My first 35" scale was a LTD TA600. I still have it. It made me realize that anything lower than D really needs a longer scale.
Now the Spector Euro 5 is my go to. I'm not playing doom or stoner related music right now. The Spector is more appropriate. I am interested in testing a bass with the Darkglass TC preamp.

 

[Bass Intrigue]

What’s everyone’s preferred bass cabinet set-ups? I’ve been debating between three options and can’t decide which one to pair with a 500w Fender Bassman Hybrid. The 15s are slightly cheaper but I’ve heard 4x10s pack more punch. Here are my choices...

1) A 4x10 & 1x15
2) 2 4x10s
3) 2 1x15s

 

[lucas303]

What’s everyone’s preferred bass cabinet set-ups? I’ve been debating between three options and can’t decide which one to pair with a 500w Fender Bassman Hybrid. The 15s are slightly cheaper but I’ve heard 4x10s pack more punch. Here are my choices...

1) A 4x10 & 1x15
2) 2 4x10s
3) 2 1x15s

Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

 

[bassboysam]

What’s everyone’s preferred bass cabinet set-ups? I’ve been debating between three options and can’t decide which one to pair with a 500w Fender Bassman Hybrid. The 15s are slightly cheaper but I’ve heard 4x10s pack more punch. Here are my choices...

1) A 4x10 & 1x15
2) 2 4x10s
3) 2 1x15s

you really can't tell the tone of a cab just by looking at the number and diameter of the speakers. find a cab you like the sound of, if it's not loud enough, keep adding more of the same cab until you get your desired level or reach the min impedance of your amp.

my favorite cab is the ampeg 810, any of the years/versions will do except the few years where thay were voiced extremely dark and bassy.

 

[jollygiantchris]

What’s everyone’s preferred bass cabinet set-ups? I’ve been debating between three options and can’t decide which one to pair with a 500w Fender Bassman Hybrid. The 15s are slightly cheaper but I’ve heard 4x10s pack more punch. Here are my choices...

1) A 4x10 & 1x15
2) 2 4x10s
3) 2 1x15s

If you do 15" you'll need a 2x15 or 2 1x15 unless your guitarist is running a 2x12 then 1x15 might be ok. For our kind of music the most important thing is probably to turn the tweeter off whatever cab you use if there is one. Otherwise it doesn't really matter you can sound great w/ whatever setup you want.

 

[socialleper]

I already dropped it by the luthier this morning. It was setup for drop D when it arrived, and REALLY played beautifully there. However, when I dropped her down to our tuning, that 105 was like a wet noodle. So my guy is setting it up with my strings and tuning. The point of all that is; I can't snap pics right now but will try to do so tonight when I pick her up.

Yeah man, the 35" scale is a life saver for me. Im a lakland fan too. in fact, my lakland 5 string is what got me into the longer scale bsses. The lakland P was one of the finer instruments I've ever owned... this is honestly in that ball park for sure. But with a better bridge and tuners, and a plek'd fretboard that's as sweet as the Lakland. Anyway, check one out if you have a chance... you can also order a semi custom version of all their basses. spec-ing wood and colors and all that.

I watched a promo video of the bass. It is interesting how Central and Eastern European basses definitely have a sound to them. They seem to like zingy basses with really sharp high end. I've noticed it about Sandberg, Warwick, Maruszczyk, and Mayones.
It is also interesting how they voiced the TC pre. They didn't go with the two mid controls, and went with a more traditional treb\mid\bass design. It is cool that they included a tone control in passive mode. Kind of a must have these days.
Let us know what you think when you get it back.

 

[rutrho]

What’s everyone’s preferred bass cabinet set-ups? I’ve been debating between three options and can’t decide which one to pair with a 500w Fender Bassman Hybrid. The 15s are slightly cheaper but I’ve heard 4x10s pack more punch. Here are my choices...

1) A 4x10 & 1x15
2) 2 4x10s
3) 2 1x15s

what about option 4, all of the above?

 

[JBOWLES]

Does anyone here run a minimal board with just drive or fuzz? I’ve had, and still have, tons of pedals, and am finally realizing I just want one or two dirt pedals and a clean base tone. Seems like everything else I try is just a niche thing that I never really utilize. I have gotten a little use from a Phaser, Compressor, and wah, but not enough total to necessitate keeping them.

My basic setup is a Darkglass B7K Ultra with either jazz basses or my Warwick $$ 5er.

Anyone else have this same issue?

Loaded question, I know. Lol

 

[Bass Intrigue]

what about option 4, all of the above?

As awesome as that sounds, I don’t think my financial or living situation would accommodate that haha

 

[kleinenenten]

Does anyone here run a minimal board with just drive or fuzz? I’ve had, and still have, tons of pedals, and am finally realizing I just want one or two dirt pedals and a clean base tone. Seems like everything else I try is just a niche thing that I never really utilize. I have gotten a little use from a Phaser, Compressor, and wah, but not enough total to necessitate keeping them.

My basic setup is a Darkglass B7K Ultra with either jazz basses or my Warwick $$ 5er.

Anyone else have this same issue?

Loaded question, I know. Lol

I’ve recently pared down my boards to just dirt and “utility” pedals (comp, tuner, HPF, gate). Nice to be able to focus. I kept one envelope filter on one board when I had an open spot, mostly for when I need some Sabbath-y was stuff, but other than that, I’m trying to simplify and maximize my practice time instead of just tweaking knobs.

 

[scabpicker]

what about option 4, all of the above?

Hehehe, I'm in love with the idea. But, I've sworn I won't carry more equipment than one trip on my 2-wheel dolly, and a second trip with just my hands. Anything more, and I'll need a roadie.

OTOH, I still shop for Fender 6x10 cabs, because I did love how one sounded. I could upgrade to a 4-wheel dolly and not feel like I'm busting my tuckus.

Does anyone here run a minimal board with just drive or fuzz? I’ve had, and still have, tons of pedals, and am finally realizing I just want one or two dirt pedals and a clean base tone. Seems like everything else I try is just a niche thing that I never really utilize. I have gotten a little use from a Phaser, Compressor, and wah, but not enough total to necessitate keeping them.

My basic setup is a Darkglass B7K Ultra with either jazz basses or my Warwick $$ 5er.

Anyone else have this same issue?

Loaded question, I know. Lol

I currently run (in order in the chain) combo Fuzz/Loony Tremolo/Chirping effect, Fuzz, Distortion, Delay, Tremolo, Vibrato/Phaser, Tuner. I only really use Fuzz, Distortion, Vibrato/Phaser and the Tuner. I have an 8-spot power supply with an aux plug, so I could run 9. I am going to put an EQ on the board, but just haven't pulled it out to add it between practices/shows lately.

My philosophy is that it's generally better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. It's a pittance in weight to carry the extra 4 pedals, and there are times when they all come in useful at either a practice when working on something or live when for whatever reason the part has descended into noise, and I'd like to add a bit more. I'd say swap the effects you're not happy with out with something else you'd like to try. You don't have to step on it, and if you find you'd rather have the old effect back, it's easy to swap out again.

But then again, that's just me.