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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Well, despite all those memes about recording your pandemic EP, I kinda made it. It took me almost a year to finish those 4 songs, but here it is. S*itty online mastering, mixed by yours truly. Enjoy. Or not.


Purchased :thumbsup:

I particularly like Eternal Flood. If you don't mind my asking, how did you create that effect/sound that comes in at about 2:27? Sounds like maybe a guitar with some kind of delay but I'm not sure.
 
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Good doom essentials board. All its really missing is a wah imo.
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Those cabs are supposedly the weak link, IIRC they're on the shallow side, so maybe not an ideal bass cab. Some guitarists probably like them. I'd be curious how it all sounds together if it's truly stock. 50w might be loud enough with a more modern 2x15, but is that cab loud enough? Probably a good low volume head.

FWIW I had a Bassman 100 from the same era for a short while. It sounded good through a modern 1X15 in a semi loud band.


The head hasn’t been used in a while it seems. Going to take it to a tech and get everything looked at. I traded for multiple reasons, but mainly for the fact that I can record bass tracks with it, play guitar live through it, and it’s a cool set to have. I had a minimal amount in the Jazz and still have 4 other Jazz basses. All I own are Jazz style right now. I’m running an SVT Classic and a GK 212 Neo live, so that’s not a concern really. I’ll mainly use this one for home recording and a little bit of guitar work if that ever were to present itself. Between the SVT, Bassman, Orange Terror Bass combo, and a GK 400, I think I’m tonally running the gamut, but the prime spot will likely always be the SVT.

Unless I run them all together at the same time! Ahhh yessss! A quad amp rig!! Lol
 
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I've thought of it, yes. An original MIJ is usually $200+ these days. I'd say about $225-250 depending on condition. I'm tempted to get the Waza, but at the same time, have almost given up on HM-2 on bass (at least the "sonic destruction" form of HM-2, I still love my Throat Locust on low gain on bass). I also prefer the Arion Metal Master HM-2 clone on bass - it seems meatier to me than the original (though the housing is plastic and therefore suspect). Also, if it's a pure clone (which I'm sure it is!), I have an old HM-2 I don't use that I can always throw on the board. I will likely pick one up in the used market later, if I'm being honest.

Currently, my favorite HM-2s for guitar chainsaw are actually clones, and I don't use the original for anything. I got them both for less than $100, and have no complaints. They're the Peper's Pedals HM-Too Many Clones (or HM-TMC) four knob version (there's also a 6 knob version with mids and blend) and the BYOC Swede. Both are used for chainsaw, but I typically leave distortion about 10:00 and highs just short of max. Plenty of chainsaw for my needs.

Off the top of my head, I have the following HM-2s and clones:

MIT HM-2
Behringer HM300
Earthbound Throat Locust
DOD Super American Metal
BYOC Swede
Peper's Pedals HM-TMC (4 knob)
Arion Metal Master

I used to have the Lone Wolf Audio Left Hand Path, but I couldn't gel with it and passed it on.

I also just realized how many parentheses I just used... Sorry about that.

Always dig and appreciate your dissertations on the HM-2.

The decibelics clone with the clean blend has got me tempted for the same reason. I'll probably wait and pick one up used. Gotta say though, based on the clips they nailed the repro out of the park.

By the way the distortion factory has a nifty sounding metal zone patch with a parametric mid. Can those get in the neighborhood of the HM? I think I should just get a byoc.
 
Always dig and appreciate your dissertations on the HM-2.

The decibelics clone with the clean blend has got me tempted for the same reason. I'll probably wait and pick one up used. Gotta say though, based on the clips they nailed the repro out of the park.

By the way the distortion factory has a nifty sounding metal zone patch with a parametric mid. Can those get in the neighborhood of the HM? I think I should just get a byoc.
Never tried a Metal Zone, so I have no clue. I've heard the standard "worst pedal ever" stuff and the "you have to use it right" crowd, but remain intrigued. I have thought of getting one to pair with my OG HM-2, an SD-1, and DS-1 to make a Swedish Death Metal guitar board. I think between those pairings/permutations, I could cover all the bases when it comes to that specific niche, and still be fairly affordable. I've already got the most expensive of those pedals!

I hear nothing but good things about the Decibelics. I've thought of it many times, but the price turns me off for a pedal that doesn't seemingly do much else I can't already do. But the Russian XIX one (or whatever it is) looks amazing. Again, price. If the Throat Locust had a blend, I don't think there'd be a more versatile HM-2.

Love my Swede! Here are some of the current affordable HM-2 options on Reverb.
BYOC The Swede HM-2 Clone | Brad's Gear Lodge | Reverb
RCO Pedals HMII Distortion (compares to the Boss HM-2) 2021 Dark grey with black knobs | RCO Pedals | Reverb
 
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It's my current favorite overdrive. Based on the Demon, which is itself based on the OCD. Lots of nice crunchy tones, and it also has a cool gated fuzz mode as well.
Gotcha. No interest then. Not an OCD fan on bass (though I love it on guitar for more classic rock to early metal type stuff, and I love the EHX Glove). Not sure why, but the OCD just never did anything for me on bass. I've gone all the way from the Joyo Ultimate Drive to the Dunwich ODB, but for whatever reason, it just didn't work for me. If memory serves, it was always slightly "crunchy" or fizzy in the highs, which is one of my pet peeves. Not that either sounded bad by any stretch, but I have other overdrive tones I prefer. To this day, I can find nothing that beats the JohnK modded Pork Loin for my overdrive needs. It's affordable, and just works in pretty much any setting. I love that thing.
 
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The lil fella has two controllable gains right? I've always been wanting to blend an OD and fuzz in parallel. The couple demos I've listened to had a couple woollier settings that seemed into that direction.

@kleinenenten saw that RCO before, has got me tempted for sure.

@JBOWLES how's the Terror combo hold up for practice? I've always been interested in those as an alternative a walkabout. Is it one of those compact 212 combos?
 
Hey all. JUst wanted to drop out of lurk mode to say, if you haven't seen the documentary "Liveage" about the Descendents/ALL, it's really really good. Great bass playing from Tony Lombardo and Karl Alvarez.
Nothing new here, besides taking my old Peavey Combo 300 apart to clean the melted foam off the voice coil. I used a scalpel to scrape it off, and in another thread, Agedhorse told me to never do that. So, next time I won't, lol.
Plugged it up to make sure it sounded ok, and after zeroing out all the high end EQ and bumping up the lows, it's not a bad sounding amp. The only thing I absolutely despise about it is the fact that it weighs as much as a V-8 engine.
 
The only thing I absolutely despise about it is the fact that it weighs as much as a V-8 engine.

I rocked a heavy a-s-s combo for years and I still love them. And the old ones are cheap nowadays. I see them and have to tell myself to stop with the amp hoarding BS. Those '80s Peaveys and Traynor/Yorkville Bloc combos still sound killer.
 
The lil fella has two controllable gains right? I've always been wanting to blend an OD and fuzz in parallel. The couple demos I've listened to had a couple woollier settings that seemed into that direction.

@kleinenenten saw that RCO before, has got me tempted for sure.

@JBOWLES how's the Terror combo hold up for practice? I've always been interested in those as an alternative a walkabout. Is it one of those compact 212 combos?

Sorry for the late reply. The Terror is pretty cool. One of the 12s faces forward and one down. It’s plenty loud and you can hook up another 8ohm cab if needed. I like it because it’s a set and forget kind of amp. No frills and nothing added into the circuit that’s not necessary. Gain, eq, master volume, and a pad for active that I never use.

Heavy amps? I’m rolling with an SVT Classic, the Terror (not heavy, but not light really), and that 1970 Bassman. Light amps seem to elude me at the moment. A far cry from the GK Fusion S I had before.
 
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I rocked a heavy a-s-s combo for years and I still love them. And the old ones are cheap nowadays. I see them and have to tell myself to stop with the amp hoarding BS. Those '80s Peaveys and Traynor/Yorkville Bloc combos still sound killer.
Once I killed off all the high end EQ, it sounded pretty good. I still have to recruit my wife to help me get it in the car, and my buddy to help me get it back into his basement, from where it shall never emerge again.
 
Lol, sounds familiar. I can't count the number of bassists in my old local scene a decade ago that had an ampeg fridge or misc 215 in a rehearsal basement that never saw the light of day. Most of them either had a second 810 or pairs or 410s and whatnot that they kept on the ground floor at home for that very reason.

When I rack mounted my Ashdown in that Mesa cab for a few years it wasn't too bad. Only like 105lbs with wheels and the towel bar. Real easy to move up and down stairs. The depth of the cab was the only thing that made it difficult to get into back seats of smaller cars...that's one thing that I think Ampeg 610s excelled at above all others.
 
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Ideally, I’d like to get a 610 or a couple of the 115 cabs, but my biggest issue is height of the cabs. I like to have the speakers closer to ear level. I basically used my GK 410 as a stand and hook up the 212 on top only. The Orange combo is a one hander. It’s not light that way, but not heavy either. I had no trouble walking 150’ or so with it in one hand.
 
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Nice, I've thought that those Orange combos would be a great alternative to a Walkabout. A bit more power and volume, probably enough for a loud rehearsal and easy to move. That was my hesitation with a Walkabout years ago. With an extension I'm sure it's loud enough, but then that killed the point of having something super easy to drag to a rehearsal.

Yeah the 610 I had was so easy to move around and get into tight cars compared to an 810 or deep 410. I don't think it's that much lighter than the fridge either. Don't know why I didn't give it more of a chance, but then again that's how I ended up with my powerhouse 212. I'd like to try a 610 again one day.