Stoner rock / metal fuzz

[JesseVMT]

I'm really getting into though genre lately (even though I'm 8 years sober) and I'm not sure what to get. I'm thinking a Darkglass DUALITY, because... well Darkglass. I want something aggressive, thick, yet still clear enough to have note definition.

Any other suggestions? I'm thinking about selling a couple pedals to fund this purchase. (Aguilar TLC and possibly my Vintage Microtubes.) I love my VMT, it's just my ear is really turning to fuzz since getting into P basses.

 

[monsterthompson]

My preference for the genre is a Green Tall Font Russian clone, like the Wren & Cuff TFR. The Abominable Hail Satan was high on my list (no pun intended).

 

[Leiria]

Im looking into the Shift Line Termofuzz for that kind of stuff and have pretty much decided on it but I havent bought it yet. What I particulary like about it is the crazier sounds you can get out of it (you can get regular fuzz too)

 

[Tourniquet Man]

Tafm for note definition

 

[dannybuoy]

TAFM or get on the newly re-opened waiting list for the newly updated FEA Photon fuzz!

 

[crguti]

look no further

 

[axelrod]

build it,baby, get just what You want...

 

[Skybone]

Either a Big Muff (or one of the many clones, especially a Black Russian/Sovtek) or a Rat

 

[Andy westwood]

Have a look at the Fuzzrocious Heliotropic, such a thick heavy fuzz!

Andy

 

[JesseVMT]

build it,baby, get just what You want...

I have no idea how to build a pedal

 

[axelrod]

Me neither, but I do it anyway...
diy effects bass fuss etc...

 

[mpdd]

cheap route - druid fuzz
boutique - custom rat tail with clean blend and feedback loop

 

[XXL]

I'm really getting into though genre lately (even though I'm 8 years sober) and I'm not sure what to get. I'm thinking a Darkglass DUALITY, because... well Darkglass. I want something aggressive, thick, yet still clear enough to have note definition.

Any other suggestions? I'm thinking about selling a couple pedals to fund this purchase. (Aguilar TLC and possibly my Vintage Microtubes.) I love my VMT, it's just my ear is really turning to fuzz since getting into P basses.

'71 Supercollider and or the Pale Mare.

 

[Bassist4Eris]

To me that genre screams "muff".

 

[ole Jason]

The Duality sucks for that kind of thing IMO. I'd look at a muff or Megalith.

 

[Corey Y]

If you want a Muff style fuzz that works great for this genre and is really flexible, try the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B. It's one of the few modded Muffs I've played on which both the gain and tone knob are useful all the way around the sweep and it has a built in blend, which quite honestly I don't even think is necessary for a good tone. It doesn't have a separate mid knob, but it's not extremely mid scooped and I've never needed one.


Here's a clip I made of one with a P bass (tuned to B) into a GK MB800 into a Faital loaded Dually 2x15.

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If you want something more on the thick overdrive/distortion side, I highly recommend a Joyo Ultimate Drive. They're cheap, easy to get and sound great for really heavy, dark tones.

Here's a clip of that, with the same setup, except into a ported Eminence Basslite loaded 1x10.

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Here's a clip with my current go to BEAD bass (Carvin PB4) into the same rig, with a variety of pedals, including the two already mentioned and a couple boutique distortion and fuzz boxes.

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There are a lot of great boutique fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedals that sound great for this style, depending on what kind of tone you're going for, the overall band mix and your budget. These are just two easy to find pedals I've had a lot of experience with. I don't currently own the Pickle Pie B anymore, but I would buy it again in a heartbeat. My bass tone on the Warp Rig demo that's linked below is about half that pedal. I was using a dual rig setup with that on one and a Dunwich Wizard Fuzz on the other. I currently use a custom Dunwich Cthulhu Fuzz Deluxe when I want a good fuzz for downtuned stoner/doom type tones, but like I said there's a lot of good stuff out there and definitely more than one way to get a good tone for these styles.

Also, I don't drink or smoke anything either, you can still like any kind of music despite whatever people want to call it. Lots of "stoner rock" and "stoner metal" style bands that don't really have anything to do with being a stoner.


EDIT:

Not as high quality of a recording, but in case you're curious about the tones with a loud tube amp instead of solid state, here's a clip that has the Joyo and the Dunwich CFD, along with a Boss ODB-3 (good reference point for known tone, I think) into my custom 300W tube head and an Ampeg 810e.

 

[AlienLanes]

Wren and Cuff Tall Font Russian is exactly what you are looking for. I used to use it with a P bass through an SVT + 810.... talk about doom.

 

[monsterthompson]

Wren and Cuff Tall Font Russian is exactly what you are looking for. I used to use it with a P bass through an SVT + 810.... talk about doom.

They (W&C TFR) can be ordered with a clean blend. Some say the circuit sounds a little different but not radically. I got one that way. I end up not using the clean blend much, but I also don't truly DOOM much either.

 

[JesseVMT]

Some excellent help so far guys. Thanks!

What if I used say a B3K into (or coming from) my Cliff Burton fuzz wah? Would adding the two give me a biting fuzz tone?

 

[JesseVMT]

If you want a Muff style fuzz that works great for this genre and is really flexible, try the Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B. It's one of the few modded Muffs I've played on which both the gain and tone knob are useful all the way around the sweep and it has a built in blend, which quite honestly I don't even think is necessary for a good tone. It doesn't have a separate mid knob, but it's not extremely mid scooped and I've never needed one.


Here's a clip I made of one with a P bass (tuned to B) into a GK MB800 into a Faital loaded Dually 2x15.

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If you want something more on the thick overdrive/distortion side, I highly recommend a Joyo Ultimate Drive. They're cheap, easy to get and sound great for really heavy, dark tones.

Here's a clip of that, with the same setup, except into a ported Eminence Basslite loaded 1x10.

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Here's a clip with my current go to BEAD bass (Carvin PB4) into the same rig, with a variety of pedals, including the two already mentioned and a couple boutique distortion and fuzz boxes.

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There are a lot of great boutique fuzz, overdrive and distortion pedals that sound great for this style, depending on what kind of tone you're going for, the overall band mix and your budget. These are just two easy to find pedals I've had a lot of experience with. I don't currently own the Pickle Pie B anymore, but I would buy it again in a heartbeat. My bass tone on the Warp Rig demo that's linked below is about half that pedal. I was using a dual rig setup with that on one and a Dunwich Wizard Fuzz on the other. I currently use a custom Dunwich Cthulhu Fuzz Deluxe when I want a good fuzz for downtuned stoner/doom type tones, but like I said there's a lot of good stuff out there and definitely more than one way to get a good tone for these styles.

Also, I don't drink or smoke anything either, you can still like any kind of music despite whatever people want to call it. Lots of "stoner rock" and "stoner metal" style bands that don't really have anything to do with being a stoner.


EDIT:

Not as high quality of a recording, but in case you're curious about the tones with a loud tube amp instead of solid state, here's a clip that has the Joyo and the Dunwich CFD, along with a Boss ODB-3 (good reference point for known tone, I think) into my custom 300W tube head and an Ampeg 810e.

Thanks for all that info!