According to people at GB they are sharing the exact same power module. That is the ONLY similarity, and I TOO am curious how they will differ in their overall sound.
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Streamliner or Shuttle?
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svtb15
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The Streamliner has 6 gain stages with 3 - 12ax7 tubes..
Where the 9.2 has one tube.. I am sure they will sound different in some way.
Where the 9.2 has one tube.. I am sure they will sound different in some way.
Well, I haven't yet compared the Max 9.2 and Streamliner head to head, but I expect they will sound very different from each other. While they both share the 3DPM, the preamp designs are not at all similar. Streamliner - 3 tubes, tube input stage. Shuttle Max - 1 tube, not a tube input stage. Then, the eq is totally different... so I wouldn't expect them to have a similar tone.
Sounds like now the uber amp that's not available 
would be a 900 watt, two channel amp with the FET preamp from the Shuttle Max amp and the tube preamp from the Streamliner amp.
I can see all these Streamliner and Max 6, 12, and 9.2 amps for sale in the classifieds.
When's the next NAMM?
would be a 900 watt, two channel amp with the FET preamp from the Shuttle Max amp and the tube preamp from the Streamliner amp.I can see all these Streamliner and Max 6, 12, and 9.2 amps for sale in the classifieds.
When's the next NAMM?
I am really looking forward to such a comparison. I am also currently torn between these two amps. I play mostly rock, from some fairly heavy stuff to pop rock. This leads me in the direction of the Max 9.2 due to the more flexible EQing options. Funny thing though is I have the same options with my GBE 1200, but I haven't touched a knob in many months! The streamliner is more suited to my personality.
I am also in the same boat. I am finding it really hard to choose between the Streamliner 9 and the Shuttle Max 9.2. What's a guy to do? If the Streamliner can nail the hi-fi as well as the Shuttle Max 9.2, it's a no brainer, but if it can't, that makes it even harder. Then it's a case of whether the MAX 9.2 can deliver enough tube-warmth to be OK. To be honest, I don't need full blown hardcore overdrive, just a reasonable grind and I'm happy. Anyone who's tried both who can comment on both?
The Streamliner can give you a very wide range of tube saturation. You can hit it very subtly, mash it up, and everything in between. I'm finding it to be very responsive to right hand dynamics. The Shuttle will get dirty, but it's a different tone. It will grind and get "brown", but dynamically, it doesn't have the same "squishiness" of the Streamliner. Im doing some shooting today for the demo and I taped a bunch of harder rock things, and man... This amp just nails the whole SVT vibe. But I am also making sure you get to hear the hifi side too. This amp seems to be able to do it all.
Thanks Ed. While I do love the SVT tone (how can you not?), I do find its versatility to be a concern for my one and only amp choice - which is what I'm currently hunting for. So if it can also step outside the SVT box into hi-fi land, which it sounds like you're leaning in that direction, it sounds like a winner. Are you going to post the demos on your Facebook page or on TB?
I think I speak for many when I say we are all dying to hear some sample clips to know how it sounds. The curiosity is killing me...
I think I speak for many when I say we are all dying to hear some sample clips to know how it sounds. The curiosity is killing me...
These are shipping now, so you should start to see reviews rolling in shortly. I'll have a few clips up on my Youtube Channel by Thursday or Friday when mine arrives, including a comparison with the TC RH450, which is another design that attempts to mimic an all tube sort of thing a bit.
Ed's comments support what I am hoping to hear... the ability to do a sort of SVTish type clean tone, and then, unlike the SVT, actually keep that warm, fat, but clean tone as you turn up the amp (i.e., without the power section distorting and grinding).
So now we have an "uber oomphy thing-a-ma-hoochie". This is marketing GOLD, baby. Can't wait for mine. Mind you, I'm guessing an appropriate time down the road I'll want the ShuttleMax 9.2 for the more modern punchy stuff... that I hardly ever play any more...
OP - you likely can't lose with either of these, but to echo what's already been said: If you are mainly playing the classic rock and are coming from an Ampeg, the Streamliner is a good bet for you, but lots of guys are still really digging their Shuttle 9 amps (and the ShuttleMax 9.2 is coming) if you think you want something a little more Hi-Fi sounding. Remember - we're talking degrees of difference with a brand sound so likely not worlds apart, just two different flavours of good.
The 9.2 still has 2 tube gain stages plus the added FET channels.
Now if they have the same power amp sections, doesnt the 9.2 have the advantage of variety?
I mean you only want so much distortion coming from a bass guitar. Its not like you are playing a Les Paul through a Mesa Boogie Triple Rec.
Obviously until we can hear them this is all just shots in the dark.
Now if they have the same power amp sections, doesnt the 9.2 have the advantage of variety?
I mean you only want so much distortion coming from a bass guitar. Its not like you are playing a Les Paul through a Mesa Boogie Triple Rec.
Obviously until we can hear them this is all just shots in the dark.
Now this?....I read about Markbass littlemark2, than Thunderfunk750a, then Aguilar DB750, Then TC Rh450,Then Markbass F500, Now Shuttlemax 9.2 and now Streamliner 900??...Do guitar players have such to choice from??
I think bass players should have like 10 different heads and like 15 different cabs and we would still want more...we are a bad beast.
Did you just hear that?
It's the sound of a bunch of MI manufacturers all groaning in unison. When you think about it, the whole craze of installing a 12AX7 at the front end of an amp was to make it sound more like a conventional tube amp; very few even came remotely close IMO.
An amp that could match the tonality and touch sensitivity of an SVT, have some decent output power, and then sound like a traditional SS amp could potentially...
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Pitty, a few of my amps may depreciate next week; then again I might be content with 1 amp for all applications.
Man Ed, you're really putting it all on the line with these props; you on the payroll or something?
Man Ed, you're really putting it all on the line with these props; you on the payroll or something?
I must agree. +1
I'm ready to spend money not yet earned.
No worries mate; not trying to suck up but do believe that you do your best to tell it straight up with quality, honest reviews and tasty playing.
Of course we all reserve the right to turn on you in a heartbeat if there's just one tiny little item out of place; no good deed...
Of course we all reserve the right to turn on you in a heartbeat if there's just one tiny little item out of place; no good deed...
I can't begin to describe how much I'm looking forward to seeing these.
I've just let my 1-year-old RH450 go - it's a great, great amp, but I just fancy a change. I'll admit it was partially fuelled by GAS for the Streamliner....
With all the tonal versatility being promised by the Streamliner, am I alone in thinking Genz have missed a trick in not providing presets a la RH450 or, at the very least, a footswitchable gain stage?
IMO no. Their design is all about simplicity and a bit of 'old school' approach. Simple tone controls, with most of the tonal variation in the tube pre gain knob.
And, the ability of the RH450 to have all the wizbang features involved their somewhat unique 'digital preamp' which really takes their product in a different direction.
Quite frankly, there is a bit of a mismatch to me with all the super hi tech functionality of the RH450 and that 'state of the art' preamp, but yet a voicing, and like Genz, a power amp limiting design that is meant to emulate an old school tone.
IMO there. My guess is, most who are drawn to the Streamliner will rarely touch a knob once the gig starts.
