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Sub-Sonic Lows..... Help!!!

#22
i had a DBX SubHamonic synth unit in my home studio for several years ... it did and those really low freqs you're referring to ... it was more like low end mud you would feel more than hear ... but i have a sub that goes very low ... lower than your average bass cab/amp ...

i play keys ( my main instrument ) we have sub-oscillators at our fingertips ... maybe Moog makes something that might work ...?? i'd be careful over-working your amp/speakers with sub freqs ... sounds like more of a job for the PA gear than a bass rig ..?!
 
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silky smoove said:
Meh... It's still going to bug me when people call it subsonic when they actually mean infrasonic. It's not affecting my quality of life as you describe, simply by virtue of the fact that this is an online forum that I periodically use, whereas you were describing your job. If it were something I came across in my line of work (environmental engineering) I would probably take a simlar stance as you're describing.
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Infrasonic = below audible range of 20 hz so also not correct. :smug:
 
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DavC said:
... maybe Moog makes something that might work ...??
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This works for me, and goes down lower-than-useable:

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#25
[QUOTE="Fieldly41, post: 17798144, member: 283861"
Here's the deal. I want a pedal/rack unit/amp that is not an octave effect, but activates the 30-60hz range.
Basically I want my tone to be unaltered, yet when the effect is engaged, it will kick in that sub-sonic EQ (I want bass that you can feel, not hear).
I got my hands on a Meatbox with the hopes that this would do what I needed. It had the right idea, but it immediately lost its tracking and had a synth-y tone to it (which I now understand is its purpose). [/QUOTE]

All you had to do was dial down the Octave knob to zero. the 30 and 60 hz knobs are just eq points. Works great and sounds exactly what you were looking for.
 
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Chris 'Wighat' Jordan said:
Infrasonic = below audible range of 20 hz so also not correct. :smug:
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Is that not what the OP was asking for? Maybe I just read it too quickly.

EDIT: Just re-read the initial post. He wants ultra lows (for lack of a better term). It's not going to get any lower than the fundamental frequency of the note without some form of synthesis, or a pitch shifting effect. You wouldn't want something other than an octave. In that case, a low-E shifted down an octave would be very nearly infrasonic. Anything lower than a standard low-E (half step down, dropped D, low B, etc.) would all become infrasonic when shifted down an octave, so in that regard I'm still fine with my statement.
 
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#28
There are some great suggestions here already.

Empress Para EQ will certainly help. As would adding "resonance" to thicken your low end. To keep your "clean" signal uneffected, split at some point and treat one side with however you want to generate low end.

Something like a Boss LS-2 splitting to a MOOG low pass filter set as a fixed low pass filter, with resonance increased, followed by an EQ would make improvements for certain.

The Meatbox as mentioned does this all in one box tho. Use the direct out to your cab and the effect out to your infrasonic projector. Turn the octave down, and the Sub and low up. Maybe a limiter would help here too.

I love the Tarus idea, a Minitaur would work too. It really depends what you want that low end to sound like. Using a synth will sound like a synth, using a sample of an orchestral device is a different story.
 
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silky smoove said:
Meh... It's still going to bug me when people call it subsonic when they actually mean infrasonic. It's not affecting my quality of life as you describe, simply by virtue of the fact that this is an online forum that I periodically use, whereas you were describing your job. If it were something I came across in my line of work (environmental engineering) I would probably take a simlar stance as you're describing.
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Yeah. In my case it's more like what Conrad was talking about in Heart of Darkness or Kubrick in Apocalypse Now where you need to let yourself become the craziest inmate in the asylum if you're going to remain sane.

"The Horror! The Horror! :laugh::thumbsup:
 
#32
It really sounds to me that what you need is a good octave pedal. You mentioned that you want the powerful lows that the former keyboard player contributed. Trying to EQ more lows into your bass will just produce mud. You didnt like the Meatbox, but octave pedals have come a long way since then.
 
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silky smoove said:
This is a pet peeve of mine: You're describingh INFRAsonics, not SUBsonics. Infra and hyper are prefixes that dictate frequency, where as sub and super are prefixes that dictate speed.
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The truth shall set you free....be peeved no more.

Sub-"a prefix occurring originally in loanwords from Latin ( subject; subtract; subvert; subsidy); on this model, freely attached to elements of any origin and used with the meaning 'under,' 'below,' 'beneath'..." Super-'a prefix occurring originally in loanwords from Latin, with the basic meaning 'above', 'beyond'...” (Dictionary.com)
 
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