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Surf Music Is Better Than Punk..

#81
Nev375 said:
A single chord worth $40? That must be exceptionaly hard to play! Like tying your fingers in a pretzel shape hard!

I mean, most gigs I've played each member was lucky to bring home $50. He must play that chord only one time and drone on it for a whole song.
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Those chords will sound great irregardless of whether they're played through a tube or solid state.

You pay for what you get.
 
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#82
Bajo Clarkko said:
Back in the early 60s, Dick Dale and his Deltones would play at the Rendezvous Ballroom in Balboa, Ca. The music was very fast, loud, and would get thousands of young people worked up into a frenzy. Not unlike punk.
Although Dick Dale did covers of Hava Nagila, Miserlou, and other Middle Eastern influenced tunes, many of his other songs were structured around I-IV-V chord progressions, including uptempo 4/4 time signatures. So yeah, I can see the similarities between Surf and punk.
Not to be overlooked, is the fact that Agent Oranges rhythym section of Drummer Dusty Watson and Bassist Sam Bolle has also backed Dick Dale, as well as Guitarist Dave Wronski forming the band Slacktone.
Maybe someone should ask Watson and Bolle if THEY think there are any similarities between Surf and Punk.
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Great post. One of the more riotous shows I have seen was one by the Cramps at Perkins Palace in the early 80's. Singer Lux Interior came on
like a young Jagger and whipped the young college crowd into a frenzy. But sonically the decisive element was the insistent surf beat being laid down by
uber cool drummer Nick Nox. That surf snare is martial and gets people wild, so I could image Dick Dale's beer-drenched frat boy fans were equally loose and wild.
 
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#83
Bajo Clarkko said:
Back in the early 60s, Dick Dale and his Deltones would play at the Rendezvous Ballroom in Balboa, Ca. The music was very fast, loud, and would get thousands of young people worked up into a frenzy. Not unlike punk.
Although Dick Dale did covers of Hava Nagila, Miserlou, and other Middle Eastern influenced tunes, many of his other songs were structured around I-IV-V chord progressions, including uptempo 4/4 time signatures. So yeah, I can see the similarities between Surf and punk.
Not to be overlooked, is the fact that Agent Oranges rhythym section of Drummer Dusty Watson and Bassist Sam Bolle has also backed Dick Dale, as well as Guitarist Dave Wronski forming the band Slacktone.
Maybe someone should ask Watson and Bolle if THEY think there are any similarities between Surf and Punk.
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There might be some similarities. But whatever they were playing in the Rendezvous wasn't called Punk.
 
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#89
ZenG said:
After carefully analyzing and studying the two for quite awhile now...there is absolutely no doubt that Surf music is better than Punk in any form....
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Neither one is "better". I love ' em both. Dick Dale and his clones to Jon and The Nightrigjters and the Packards and the Sex Pistols, early Clash and The Vibtrators. It's all good. And I love that a new generation is into surf; check out La luz, four girls from Seatle keeping the surf spirit alive. Music is music. And as long as we're playing it and listening, there is hope for us all.
 
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Here, connect the dots...one of the 'godfathers' of punk backed by a couple of Pistols and a Damned, although I think the pipeline was in his arm...


As pure original rockabilly was a short-lived regional phenomenon, 'Surf' music was the first nation(and world)
-wide musical genre that allowed for youthful and aggressive(and not necessarily virtuoso)guitar playing to be showcased. I've always felt that true surf music(and that means instrumentals, not the Beach Boys)was mortally wounded with the JFK assassination(end of the Camelot good times), and finished off by the Beatles. But before the Brit invasion, it gave the suburban youth across the country a forum to get into music, pick up a guitar, and even if they sucked, a chance to get up in front of the girls by performing some rudimentary riffs(a better chance than playing Kingston Trio covers). Sorta similar to punk 15 years later(but for slightly different reasons). Even if the influence is not exactly direct, 'punk' owes much to 'surf', and it's really silly and ignorant to state that one's better than the other.
 
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