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Switching to Class D. Is 500w enough?

Honestly, a 500-watt rms amp into 4Ω should be fine. You can get an 8Ω 210 cab for that it will about 250-watts into it for small and medium venues. Then buy a second 210 and your amp will put out an additional 250-watts into that one when you need get more volume. Two of the 8Ω 210 cabs is a de facto 410 cab and a 500-watt 410 cab should take care of just about anything or place you'll play. Some outdoors without FOH support might be a problem and some music festivals may be a problem, but music festivals always seem to have FOH support and you should have plenty of stage volume with your rig.

Having said that, I had too little amp way back in 1971 for the gigs I was touring with a nightclub band and the guitarist and keys both upgraded their amps to 120-watts amps with 412 cabs at the same time. My poor little amp with its 212 cab just couldn't keep up. It's no fun to be told, "you need to turn up" by the rest of the band when you are maxed out. I ended up buying an amp that had 4 times as much power as the one it replaced and I never had another problem.

It had a powered 215 cab with 4 round ports alongside the speakers and I could only turn it up to #3 on its dial (9 o'clock) indoors in most places and it would flap my bell bottoms if I got within 3-feet of the cat at that setting. I was never again told, "you need to turn up". I was touring at the time so it was worse than embarrassing. I vowed never to be in that position again. So, currently I have two 800-watt amps one a class A/B Eden amp and the other a DNA-800 amp that puts out 800-watts rms into 4Ω or 2Ω and has a built-in compressor with adjustable threshold and ratio.

A 500-watt amp is probably all I really need. But, with my cabs, I KNOW my 800-watt amps are more than enough for any job. I even get told to turn down at music festivals when I move the master up to 10:30. Street price on my DNA-800 amp is $799. If the 500-watt amp you're looking at is within about $150 of the price of the 800-watt one, I'd go with the 800-watt amp. In any case, you'll probably opt for an 800-watt one down the road anyhow.
 
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500w would prob be fine... More cabs will help get you moving the air you need for the volume you're looking for however. Effects, pedals, pre-amp gain, bass pickup output, playing style, etc will all factor into how much of that 500w headroom you'll end up using as well. Agedhorse had a pretty good breakdown on that earlier.

i've been using a Fender Rumble 500 head for the past few years with an Eden 210 XLT and a 115 cab (with a high sensitivity driver after I blew up the original one) and its stupid, skirt flaggingly ridiculous levels of loud.
Gain stays around 50% and main volume doesn't get past 1/4 otherwise I drown out our drummer and my guitar player.

Its had more than enough volume for anything I've needed, but if I end up replacingit, it'll be to get a different sounding preamp, sound and a better DI out from the amp.
 
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Depends on the gig. But if a 210 accomplishes your needs 500 is enough. Even a 410 on most occasions. A loud 2 guitar band I would go 800. also, a 410 or 212 at least.
500w would prob be fine... More cabs will help get you moving the air you need for the volume you're looking for however. Effects, pedals, pre-amp gain, bass pickup output, playing style, etc will all factor into how much of that 500w headroom you'll end up using as well. Agedhorse had a pretty good breakdown on that earlier.

i've been using a Fender Rumble 500 head for the past few years with an Eden 210 XLT and a 115 cab (with a high sensitivity driver after I blew up the original one) and its stupid, skirt flaggingly ridiculous levels of loud.
Gain stays around 50% and main volume doesn't get past 1/4 otherwise I drown out our drummer and my guitar player.

Its had more than enough volume for anything I've needed, but if I end up replacingit, it'll be to get a different sounding preamp, sound and a better DI out from the amp.

I commend you for hauling around an Eden 2x10 xlt. That box sounds best when being pushed. The older Eden boxes weighed a ton and sounded great. The XLT boxes had great bracing, good speakers, and built well. I still use my Eden WT400 for some louder gigs.
 
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500 in a 210 in a hard hitting band, no support.
Nope, doubt it.
I commend you for hauling around an Eden 2x10 xlt. That box sounds best when being pushed. The older Eden boxes weighed a ton and sounded great. The XLT boxes had great bracing, good speakers, and built well. I still use my Eden WT400 for some louder gigs.

Yeah, it weighs a TON but it sounds soooo good. I picked it up in a pinch because I needed an additional cab before a gig and its proven to be well worth it even a few years later.
Getting a small hand truck to cart it around was one of the better things I did when I picked up the cab.
 
Crown has a free online calculator for this: https://www.crownaudio.com/en/tools/calculators

However loud is a 500w amplifier with a given cabinet or cabinets, an 800w amp will be 2 dB louder.
My 800-watt WD 800 is 15.1 db louder than my 25-watt B-15N.

"Yeah but those are 25 tube watts."
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