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Swollen Pickle vs Sonny Bluebeard

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Musicman1901, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    Hey everybody, I have recently been hit with some fuzz GAS again and am trying to decide between these 2 pedals. I know a lot of people are going to say the bluebeard right away but I feel like I can't count the swollen pickle out. It sounds like a great fuzz. I would love to hear opinions from people that have used these pedals. Especially people that have tried both! Thanks everybody!
  2. rbacker95


    Jan 30, 2014
    I've never tried the bluebeard, but I love the swollen pickle. It's an awesome pedal. I would try both before you buy, but the swollen pickle is a hell of a fuzz pedal
  3. JBNeedsBeer

    JBNeedsBeer Supporting Member

    May 13, 2011
    New Brunswick, NJ
    Bluebeard. I owned the Pickle and, judging from all of the demos, the Bluebeard owns it.
  4. I have owned them both. The pickle is more tweak-able than the Bluebeard. And it has more low end for sure. I'm not saying the BB is bad. They are both nice muff clones. Honestly, you should really consider the Grey Stache vs. the Pharoah. Same price range, and in my honest opinion they are the best muff clones that iv'e tried. But, of course it'd be best to hear for yourself. I'm sure you will be hear plenty of others chime in on the topic. Best of luck to you.
  5. ngh


    Feb 6, 2013
    brooklyn, ny
    the bluebeard is in a class of it's own. if you want a muff clone the bluebeard is the way to go in my humble opinion.
  6. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
    here's a partial list of some of the 'muff based' pedals:

    EHX Civil War
    EHX Green Russian
    Earthbound Audio SuperCollider
    Blackout Effectors Musket
    Way Huge Swollen Pickle
    BlackArts Pharaoh
    Catalinbread Manx Loagthan
    Mojohand Iron Bell
    Earthquaker Devices Hoof
    Cornish G2
    BJFE Fire Red Fuzz
    Bass Big Muff
    W&C TFR
    S&S Bluebeard

    out of all of those, my personal faves are the Cornish G2, The BJFE/MP Fire red Fuzz, the BE Musket, and the EA Super Collider.
  7. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    Hmmm I remember awhile back considering getting a grey stache and I never got around to it. My current fuzz is a colorsound tonebender which I plan on keeping. This will be my secondary fuzz. So I'm definitely wanting the one that's most "different" from the tonebender.
  8. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    It's interesting you say that because awhile back I posted a thread comparing the stache and the bluebeard and everybody was essentially telling me how they were apples and oranges.
  9. father of fires

    father of fires Commercial User

    Nov 29, 2006
    Chief of Medicine at Damnation Audio
    I would love to try a G2. John...did you build your own?
  10. If you are looking for different look into the baby thunda from Dwarfcraft. Or the Heliotropic from Fuzzrocious.
    Check out the fuzz wars on pedals and effects. http://www.pedalsandeffects.com
  11. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    Fuzzrocious seems to have alot of nice dirt pedals. I don't know what distracted me from getting some stuff from him about a year ago when I was interested. The grey stache seems a little more tame compared to the bluebeard. I have never tried either of them. Just going by videos
  12. johnk_10

    johnk_10 vintage bass nut Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 16, 2008
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    John K Custom Basses
  13. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    I owned the Swollen Pickle. Great sounds in there, but way too complicated to use. Many knobs, and the internal trimpots are, unfortunately, essential in getting a good sound out of it. Having to open the pedal to fine tune the sound is a huge design failure imho.

    I don't know about the bluebeard. But if you haven't chosen yet, like many people suggested above, have a look at the Fuzzroicious, Wren and Cuff and Dwarfcraft stuff. And the Malekko Diabolik of course...
  14. VeganThump


    Jun 29, 2012
    South Jersey
    You can cop a pretty good muff tone with the Fuzzrocious Heliotropic. I owned that pedal and really liked it a lot, it's somewhere between a muff and a rat but it's definitely quite muffy.
  15. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    I looked up a couple videos of the grey stache and it seems more grindy with alot more presence in the mids which is nice but it seems much more subtle than the bluebeard. It sounds like it cant really scream as well. Also, that's a good point about the pickle. I don't need 10 knobs plus internal trimpots to dial in a good fuzz sound. It will honestly probably annoy me haha
  16. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    I went through a huge Muff clone phase where I owned quite a few of them. I had a Pickle but no Bluebeard. In the end I decided on keeping only my BE Musket. It's just a great fuzz with everything you need to get a killer sound.

    One of these days I will be getting a Civil War Muff or a Wren & Cuff Box of War.
  17. Bunk McNulty

    Bunk McNulty It is not easy to do simple things correctly. Supporting Member

    Dec 11, 2012
    Northampton, MA
    From the fuzz wars thing, the Guthrie Trapp video: Hey, look, it's Michael Rhodes!
  18. Musicman1901

    Musicman1901 Supporting Member

    Jun 1, 2012
    Rochester, NY
    leaning more towards the blubeard although somebody recommended the malekko diabolik fuzz which sounds pretty incredible as well!
  19. mmbongo

    mmbongo Chicken Pot Pie. My three favorite things!! Supporting Member

    Sad that folks seem to overlook the Mojo Hand BMP-1. That thing KILLLS.
  20. Vlad5

    Vlad5 Chronic Knob Twiddling Tone Chaser

    Feb 17, 2011
    New England
    I own a Bluebeard, and if you want screaming fuzz, this is your guy.
    It does muffled fuzz too.

    I owned a Tall Font Russian (different beast really) and it has LOT of low end content.

    I compared the two, and the TFR won for board space due to this.

    However, when it came time to hock pedals for much needed cash, I sold the TFR and kept the Bluebeard.

    The Bluebeard doesn't cut too much lowend for straight through to amp use (without clean blend), and you can always boost the low-mids after it if you like using a preamp (I do, works great).

    But it screams, and is kinda amazing when pushed into other drives/fuzzes etc.
    Gain for days.

    The only drawback I see is the wait period, but you can email Sonny and get a decent estimate on build/delivery time. Unless you buy used of course.