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Talk down a thrift shop?

What you, me, and most of the rest of us expect a thrift shop to do, and what they really do can be two different things. Unless calling one's self a thrift store and and having to operate in a specific manner as a result is regulated by laws then they can do what any other store does.
FWIW, no thrift store I ever shopped in asked to see my pay stub or last year' 1040. So the intent of selling to people in a certain income bracket is also not necessarily true.
Finally, I doubt that a thrift store will consider the extra value of any upgrades in setting a price.
Perhaps if they want to sell used items at above retail prices they should call themselves an antique store.

I wasn't saying that thrift stores are required by ordinance to operate in a certain way. Just that if they are not operating within certain parameters, then they aren't really a thrift store, and it would be dishonest of them to call themselves a thrift store. Of course they are free to operate however they want. But the main target customer demographic for thrift stores are people who either want or need to be more careful with how much money they spend. I didn't say that the purpose of their existence is to exclusively serve people of a limited income bracket. If a shop is truly a thrift store, they will want to price things to attract thrifty shoppers; they don't want to price used items at amounts greater than the prices that the items can be obtained for brand new.
 
I wasn't saying that thrift stores are required by ordinance to operate in a certain way. Just that if they are not operating within certain parameters, then they aren't really a thrift store, and it would be dishonest of them to call themselves a thrift store. Of course they are free to operate however they want. But the main target customer demographic for thrift stores are people who either want or need to be more careful with how much money they spend. I didn't say that the purpose of their existence is to exclusively serve people of a limited income bracket. If a shop is truly a thrift store, they will want to price things to attract thrifty shoppers; they don't want to price used items at amounts greater than the prices that the items can be obtained for brand new.

Please offer your idea of what defines a thrift store. I'll provide mine.
Do you have data to support thrift store demographics as being anything other than the general public, or is this just what you think a thrift store should be?

The problem with this discussion is that many of us seem to have different ideas about what a thrift store is, or should be. Until we know how a thrift store is defined by the individuals we respond to, we cannot really offer an appropriate response.

A thrift store may or may not be associated with charitable activities. But when it is, our expectation seems to be different from that of one which is not. The word "thrift" as used in the context of a store carries no expectations beyond finding a reduced price on used items. The association with charitable endeavors is a matter apart from the thrift aspect. Without making that distinction this conversation will continue to be difficult to sort out.

Please note that in the original post the store was identified only as a thrift shop. Some responders made the assumption that their was a charitable component involved. That was not mentioned in the original post. Additionally, other responders brought in a component of guilt or Karmic retribution to the conversation. I even added a meme in response to someone else's idea of Karma being in play here. Yet the OP never mentioned any of this in the original post.

A retail store deals in new merchandise and tends to sell those items at the retail prices. Those prices are not negotiable but the store might discount them. Their customers are anyone willing to pay the price.

A thrift store deals in used merchandise and tends to sell those items at a price lower than when it was new. Those prices are often negotiable. Their customers are anyone willing to pay the price.

An antique store deals in used merchandise and tends to sell those items at a price higher than when it was new. Those prices are often negotiable. Their customers are anyone willing to pay the price.

The difference between a thrift store and an antique store is our expectation of how they price their items. If a thrift store leans predominantly towards charging higher prices it might want to rebrand themselves as a antique store. But a one time, and possibly erroneous mis-pricing of an item does not warrant that. And discussing the matter with the thrift shop comes with no ill will towards the buyer unless he believes it does, and that was not stated in the original post. It was simply a matter of asking about paying X price for Y bass.
 
Please note that in the original post the store was identified only as a thrift shop. Some responders made the assumption that their was a charitable component involved. That was not mentioned in the original post. Additionally, other responders brought in a component of guilt or Karmic retribution to the conversation. I even added a meme in response to someone else's idea of Karma being in play here. Yet the OP never mentioned any of this in the original post.

Here's the original post:

Was in a thrift shop yesterday looking for kid clothes and I saw a bass behind the counter. Squier Affinity Jazz. They had a $300 price tag on it. Those basses go for $270 new. Would it be cruddy to try and talk them down? The thrift shop donates their profits to all kinds of good causes, but they're charging far more than the instrument is worth. Any thoughts?

Hope this helps.
 
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Hope this helps.
Oh Dang! You are correct. Yes it does help. I missed that in three rereads. Thanks for pointing that out.
So I guess regarding everything I said here...
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Wow I'm amazed this is still going. Seems pretty simple - ask a manager about the price, they can say yes or no. I think this is pretty reasonable as long as you're respectful and being a kind human.
 
Thrift stores are supposed to sell stuff at cheaper prices appropriate for used items, so that the items are more affordable to people with limited funds. If they are trying to sell an item for way more than the average used price, or even more than the retail new price, then the item is not priced appropriately. If you are certain the bass is bone stock, i.e., no fancy aftermarket replacement parts or modifications that might raise the value accordingly, then it wouldn't hurt to bring it to the attention of a supervisor or manager. They wouldn't want to be overpricing an item. "Marking up prices is the opposite of what a thrift store does".
You are right and yet is a trend What a great business model. Get stuff for free. Sell it. Goodwill has gotten wise to the value of some things (yay internet!). They DEFINITLY mark up items, and keep them behind the counter, certain shoes, vinyl records, jewelry... you name it. Of course they got EVERYTHING for the same price: FREE... and they don't always get it right. Once saw a copy of "Thriller" behind the counter. $20 bucks. Is there a more un-rare album than that? It wasn't sealed, or original pressing... nothing remarkable about it. I examined it. Goodwill records are $1.. and I've bought quite few.. some actually were relatively rare. Goody Mob on vinyl for ex.
 
A pawn shop is a private business intent on making a profit. Fair game I believe, to haggle with them at will if that’s your thing. A thrift shop is a charitable business with the intent to make goods available to those who are doing it tough financially as I understand it. I would not haggle at a thrift shop but that’s my take on it.
I noticed Australia. Ahh that is on my bucket list. Perhaps your society still has a shred of decency left. Used to work among lots of Aussies on cruise ships. Can't recall meeting one that wasn't real.. y'know, just down to earth and a straight shooter. There are two massive companies here called Goodwill and Value Village. Ostensibly, as you said "charitable businesses. They get EVERYTHING for free, pay for nothing. They are a non-profit raking a massive fortune for the CEO and management while paying physically/mentally challenged people, people in recovery (addiction) and the formerly incarcerated a laughable amount of money to work there. As non profits and employers of the differently abled, they are tax advantaged. Thanks to the internet, the company has become wise to items that perhaps may fetch more than the normal asking price. They place these items behind a glass, and put all sorts of prices on them. They don't always get it right. Example: A copy of MJ's Thriller behind the glass counter for $20., meanwhile Bluenote records (original, not 70's reissues), sit on the shelf for a dollar each. I cleaned up that day. SO while I agree with your point and applaud your sentiment. Many thrift stores here and in Canada have begun to price their wares for the middle class bargain hunters, pricing out many of the people they were initially designed to help. I have 0 problem negotiating at these places. I once asked for a discount on a brand new, with tags, Merino wool sweater.. because it had moth holes in it. I planned to wear it outside to work in the cold. They got it for free, were asking $30. for it because it was Merino. Their sweaters are usually 3-5 bucks. I got it for $5. "Thrifting" is a past time here among those who could afford far better. The stores are adjusting accordingly. Not all, mind you, there are some dedicated to animal shelters, women's shelters, St Vincent DePaul. They are , without exception, a fraction of the size of these large chain thrift stores. No, I would not haggle in these places. Most likely no need to.
 
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I am of the unpopular opinion that asking any brick and mortal (physical store) location to lower their prices is extremely uncouth and classless. Moreso consignment, Goodwill or Salvation Army locations.

I truly do not understand why it has been deemed 'acceptable' for certain items, such as automobiles and hotel rooms.

I see zero difference in asking a thrift store to lower the price of a bass guitar and walking into your local supermarket and asking them to take a dollar of your gallon of milk.
I respect and even understand your opinion. However, thrift stores take donations, much of the stuff comes from dead people. Someone dies, family loads the stuff up, takes it to Goodwill, etc. I was once in a Goodwill, browsing for used books, and they brought out a ton of records, soul, reggae, Motown...etc. They flat out told me someone had died and this was their record collection. A buck each. They withheld what they thought might be some collectible ones and put them behind a glass counter. They've got Ebay too. THE difference is Grocery stores PAY for their stock.
 
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