blendermassacre ... have you ever heard of The Guild. I picked up their CD from CDBaby a while ago based on a whim. It was really good.
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and hey i didnt have cross colors and IoUs ..i had pro wings and lee jeans..its about the music and that REAL music spoke to real cats.
ok i see alot of RZA love. Saw some Pete Rock love and some Prince Paul love. got the dilla love
2 pages on the way to the third and and NO DJ PREMIER?!?!?
im almost hurt
and as I alwys do in these threads, another bassist that hasnt been mentioned yet is Preston Crump...that dude kills it on all the old Outkast stuff.

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Also, everyone should listen to Binary Star. I came across them through Pandora awhile back, and it's inspiring how two ex-cons made awesome albums such as Waterworld and Masters of the Universe with so little.
I would agree. I hear a lot of El-P in what Aesop is doing production wise. It's a lot of hard bass and lazer sounds.
Actually the "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" album by EL-P is another great album that I've been into a lot.
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as for other hip hop, i listen to less now than i used to, and ill be the first to admit i can still enjoy a song despite the lyrics being rather absurd (cant relate to 40 inch rims and a 50 inch plasma in my ride yo...). i also tend to still listen to a lot of bay area rap i got into in high school (11/5 [and taydatay], mr dr, yukmouth, cougnut, young dru, e40, lil wyno, brotha lynch, etc.).
i must be getting old ..when people say bay area i still think too short and digital underground
ive always associated the Amen around DnB and Jungle. i always feel The JB's Clyde Stubblefield's playing is kinda the root of that hip hop break sound.
either way ive always been into the weirdo samples. grittier more far out samples. thats why ive always been into dilla, prince paul, automator, pete rock. that sp12/1200 sound. short gritty choppy samples from realy off the wall stuff..leaving vocal chops in and never super drum heavy at least from the sample itself.
Probably ... for as young as the genre is it is old enough to actually start defining eras.
De La just did their "3 Feet High and Rising" 20-year anniversary last year and they were redifining the hip-hop that preceded them.
When I think Bay Area I think Del, but then again I grew up outside of Chicago so for me anything west of the Mississippi blended into "West Coast".
Yeah I agree, but the Amen beat has been a part of Hip Hop as well. I'm not saying its the only sample, but it's relevant. I like a lot of different Hip Hop acts, but I think the stuff that impresses me the most is the stuff that has a diversity of samples/loops and incorporates live instruments. Cypress Hill (samples from Black Sabbath and other places) comes to mind. The Roots. J Dilla. These are just off the top of my head.
im from Kenosha WI on the IL border..Milwaukee/Chicago is one big home base stomping ground to me and i get that everything blends west of the mississippi. as far as i was concerned scarface could have been from LA. NOW A DAYS theres a sound division..true definition in everything outside of indie rap. i always dug the cold weather sound though (chi/det/cleve/philly/NY) i really feel like growing up with snow toughens cats up a lil more and it always came through in the music.
I was so confused when I went to LA and saw guys walking their dogs in november with jackets and hoodies on (at the same time) because it got down to 55-60 degrees after the sun went down.
i must be getting old ..when people say bay area i still think too short and digital underground
For the Midwest imports like myself, LA really softens you up. The locals don't really understand what cold is.
I would agree that the gritty weather of the Midwest and Northeast do impart some flavor in the local hip-hop. I couldn't imagine "Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)" coming out of LA.
I just wanted to give props to this post.I`m a late-in-life rap and hip hop fan. Mainly due to my job.Over the past 4 years working in a state Youth Correctional Facility I end up listening to the music that our wards favor.
Now,I can only recite a few names and even fewer song titles but the majority of this "new"(to me) music is really some good stuff! Akon,Nelly,Lil Wayne,Snoop Dogg,Tupac...Tupac especially as his lyrics are insightful. Yeah,I`m down with "good" rap(the non-hateful,ultra-gangsta kind) and most of the current,and classic,hip hop.
Working with troubled and gang-entrenched youthful offenders has really taught me--not only how to enjoy these genres of music but also how such urban music directly relates to our population`s personal situations and their(usually)negative sub-culture(read:gang)influenced backgrounds.
Learning to honestly enjoy and like much of this music has allowed me to create a better raport and learning/couseling environment for teaching and guiding these young men.Even these tough kids can`t hide a smile watching a "nerdy" old white man sing along to their favorite tunes.
Music is magic.