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tb Hip hop Roundtable
- Thread starter your idol
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Let me be the first to say that the new Rakim album is really awful IMO.
Don't get me wrong he is one of hiphops greatest emcees (if not THE greatest), he dropped classics during the Eric B & Rakim era & 2 quite good solo outings.
But the last one, Seventh Seal, is by far his worst .IMO
I'm was really disapointed waiting 10 years for this.
He is still sharp lyrically , but the production is really the weak point.
Don't get me wrong he is one of hiphops greatest emcees (if not THE greatest), he dropped classics during the Eric B & Rakim era & 2 quite good solo outings.
But the last one, Seventh Seal, is by far his worst .IMO
I'm was really disapointed waiting 10 years for this.
He is still sharp lyrically , but the production is really the weak point.
I've found that a lot of times great MCs are often paired with some subpar production and poor MC's have great production.
Bad MC and good Production (50-Cent with Dr. Dre) -- He's all mumbling and bumbling over a hot track that any MC with skills would kill.
Bad MC and good Production (50-Cent with Dr. Dre) -- He's all mumbling and bumbling over a hot track that any MC with skills would kill.
Ya he really shoulda quit after the 18th letter imo. That still felt too "produced" compared to his OG stuff but it wasn't terrible, and seemed right at the time.
One of my favorites from 2009 has got to be People Under the Stairs - Carried Away. Thes1 and his MPC driven soul/funk/jazz beats still rock the sh*t.
hes still rakim thankfully! maybe not on tracks but i saw him live with Brother Ali and he blew its to bits! the R is on point
look at the WU organization. some of hottes beats went to the worst acts..levels out abum sales and when you make albums you gotta give your sub par rappers the heat just to catch those soundscan numbers
While I agree that not all of the WU emcees are on the same level, I don't think any one of them is as you say sub-par. IMO 3 of them are some of the best in hiphop history.
IMO
no doubt ugly man....ghost, gza and method are all top notch. im listening to the W right now.
another guy i havnt seen mentioned much yet is saul williams. some of the stuff he does is unreal.
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another guy i havnt seen mentioned much yet is saul williams. some of the stuff he does is unreal.
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im talking wu offshoots not core wu. killarmy,wu syndicate,killa bees ect.
...and during all the meth and red hype who saw ghost coming out as the most successful wu member in the music
I enjoyed the vision of early hip hop. as an example I'll use "say no go" by De La Soul. They used samples from Hall & Oates, the Detroit Emeralds, the Emotions, and Sly Stone and dropped a slammin' track. I find that kind of creativity missing from todays hip hop artists. Good for bassists though.
Ghostface's skills are razor sharp.
IMO Gza , Ghostface, Raekwon are the c.r.e.a.m (pun intended) of the Wu.
Honorable mentions go to Masta Killa (most underated Wu Member), his album No said date is one of the best Wu solo albums & is the one that sold the least.
prince paul is just one of those guys that dosent just bite a sample . he sangs 100 different samples and makes something so uniquely his. hes right up there with dilla and pete rock and large professor when it comes to using multiple pieces to make something holisticly theirs
Ghostface's skills are razor sharp.
IMO Gza , Ghostface, Raekwon are the c.r.e.a.m (pun intended) of the Wu.
Honorable mentions go to Masta Killa (most underated Wu Member), his album No said date is one of the best Wu solo albums & is the one that sold the least.
no said date is really raw and i dig it alot. its funny to see his talent since he was the last out of all of em to start rapping
ghost is amazing! period. what he can do to a track even when its not his is a very special gift..he turned that Amy Winehous joint into a burner in one verse
while on the wu, i've been listening to (the original) "cuban linx" consistently for about the past two years now. as a kid, i listened to "liquid swords" way more.
pretty mad about missing a kurupt/dj quik show in san francisco over the summer. they performed alongside live instruments, too.
pretty mad about missing a kurupt/dj quik show in san francisco over the summer. they performed alongside live instruments, too.
Anyone else heard Ghostface's, uh, spoken word record? The World According To Pretty Toney?
He's a great MC, but that might be the worst thing I've ever had the poor luck to discover.
He's a great MC, but that might be the worst thing I've ever had the poor luck to discover.
And the Bomb Squad at their peak.
I keep meaning to put together thoughts for this long-overdue thread, but I haven't had time. I'm old and not as in touch with hip hop as I was 20 years ago--I'm hoping to learn more about these newer MCs.
I was lucky enough to see Public Enemy twice back then. I've really been digging the Roots for a few years (one of the best live shows I've ever seen). I also like the punk/hip-hop connection, there's something to that (going all the way back to early Beasties). Anyhow, more soon...
BOMB SQUAD! if they woulda charged Hank Shocklee for every sample the bomb squad used he could have acumulated the national debt easy. PE was enormous in sound for sure and alot of the hip hop world owes a ton to them.
I saw Public Enemy during the 20th anniverasry of It will take a Nation of millions to Hold Us back tour. Awesome show with live band .Let me tell you that Chuck D is pure AWESOME.
