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TBOT - Negativity Central

When Jerry Garcia passed a lady i know was talking about how awful it was that he was only 53 when he died.

Her comment brought this thought to mind. How many people get to spend their entire adult life doing pretty much what they love and do it on their terms.

Sounds like a very full and satisfying life to me.
 
When Jerry Garcia passed a lady i know was talking about how awful it was that he was only 53 when he died.

Her comment brought this thought to mind. How many people get to spend their entire adult life doing pretty much what they love and do it on their terms.

Sounds like a very full and satisfying life to me.
Was Jerry a heroine addict? If that is true it is doubtful he was a free man.
 
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Was Jerry a heroine addict? If that is true it is doubtful he was a free man.
I'm not certain he was a heroin addict, but i do recall he had an on again off again thing with cocaine. And again i'm not sure but i think he died from complications associated with diabetes while he was in an active period of coke use. But yes, i'd say he may not have been free of those demons but i look at my demons and while i'm (thank god) free from the most self destructive chemical aspects of my life, i am nevertheless haunted by things that i would rather not be haunted by. Unfortunately i have two choices, drink to keep them at bay, or accept them as the price i now pay for the life i once lived. My gratitude remains higher than my expectations but there are days i'd rather be anyone but me. Oddly enough i'm never tempted to grab the only known cure, i just invite them to take their best shot and let them eat at my soul until they've had their fill. As i become less mobile the black hole following behind me grows larger and i suspect one day soon it will close the gap and consume me whole. I can't say i don't deserve it, but i can promise when i'm laid out to cool someone better lock the door on the vault against the chance i might develop a desire for some soul food of my own.
 
Some people aren't cut out for it, which is why Moon & Bonham are gone.
Lemmy survived many other rock stars simply because he could handle it, somehow.

I've known a few expatriates in Bangkok who can drink every day w/o it affecting their livelihood. I don't know how they do it. Some are senior citizens too.
I also know guys who died at 50+, because they couldn't put the bottle down.
 
Speaking of Lemmy in a philosophical mood, I once asked him on tape for a definition of the artist in society,
and I liked his response so much my previous band and I sampled it into the following track.
The middle sample is of Henry Rollins, who trashes Clear Channel Music (Now "I Heart Radio").



Featured on the 2009 round-up album, "Rarities"

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Yeah, Lemmy was smart enough to realize that if he made his main objective making music, then the secondary benefits would roll in.

Um, that's not what he said, don't twist Lemmy's words now... "Girls" was the objective, "music" was the mechanism.

I don't appreciate you preaching about how people enjoying their lives the way they want to is "pretty sad".

I didn't say that. There are tons of ways to enjoy life that aren't sad, but wrecking your body with drugs and alcohol isn't one of them.

Square? Because I don't aspire to be like Lemmy? Ok. :D
 
...Many people have said that even after many drinks Lemmy was coherent...

Having spent about half my life drinking to blackout at least once a week i am certainly not one to judge, but something i learned while getting sober is people who drink every day and remain "coherent" actually remain perpetually intoxicated. I had a friend who drank at least 2 cases of beer a day and i never saw him drunk. After i went for the cure i learned that i was mistaken about my friend who i never saw drunk. The reality was i never saw him sober. I've heard folks like that refered to as high functioning alcoholics, but that clashes with the classic "problem drinker" definition of alcoholic so it really comes down to personal opinion regards those who drink in excess and defy the odds by being happy and successful anyway.

My personal take is happiness is what you want it to be. Far too many of our fellows feel it is incumbant on them to fit everyone into a particular slot, but there are enough round pegs in a square hole world to confound even the most forgiving of the frustrated hall monitors among us.
 
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Some people aren't cut out for it, which is why Moon & Bonham are gone.
Lemmy survived many other rock stars simply because he could handle it, somehow.

I've known a few expatriates in Bangkok who can drink every day w/o it affecting their livelihood. I don't know how they do it. Some are senior citizens too.
I also know guys who died at 50+, because they couldn't put the bottle down.

I just finished reading Lemmy's book and one thing that really stood out was the story about him considering having his blood "recycled" to detoxify his entire body without having to go through withdrawals. When the doctors tested his blood he was deemed not a candidate for the procedure because his blood was so toxic already and his body had adjusted to it! Some people just have more efficient livers. . .
 
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I happen to like Motorhead and I respect Lemmy as a musician. That's because I'm a metal head from the beginning and I've lived that lifestyle and enjoyed it.

But there is a limit to my admiration. There is simply no way I'm going to put Lemmy on a pedistal as some kind of philosophical guru. And while I personally partake of a few ounces of alcohol every day, I can't understand the desire to emulate a lifestyle that includes perpetual intoxication.

He was a musician - not a role model.
 

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