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tc electronic bh250 - new micro head!
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The PF350. I had the gain at around 1 o'clock without any clipping and the volume at around 3. With that volume I was able to hear myself through a loud drummer, two Marshall half stacks, and a third guitarist on a 50 watt tube amp. On the BH250, the volume was only around 12 or 1 and even that was a little loud over the same band mix...I had to turn the volume on my bass down slightly.
I tried it in the shop yesterday, through TC RS210 cabinet and I really liked how it sounded. With master set at 1 o'clock it wasn't loud as I expected. In it's defense, it looks like master knob works in linear fashion, meaning that it doesn't max out at 12 o'clock as some other amps. It seems that it has a lot more of juice to give.
I'm seriously thinking about purchasing, but I'm afraid it won't be loud enough. To clarify it - I have a "big rig" (Fusion 550 + Eden 410XLT) for outdoor venues. What I need is a small amp that will be used in conjunction with Markbass 102HF (2x10", front ported) cab for small venues. Markbass Little Mark II that I used to own was perfect for that, and I never had to push it.
What is the BH250's output at 8ohms? I'm guessing something in range of 150-180W. If they rated it honestly, I think it should work for me. Has anybody had the chance to compare it to Little Mark II/III?
I'm seriously thinking about purchasing, but I'm afraid it won't be loud enough. To clarify it - I have a "big rig" (Fusion 550 + Eden 410XLT) for outdoor venues. What I need is a small amp that will be used in conjunction with Markbass 102HF (2x10", front ported) cab for small venues. Markbass Little Mark II that I used to own was perfect for that, and I never had to push it.
What is the BH250's output at 8ohms? I'm guessing something in range of 150-180W. If they rated it honestly, I think it should work for me. Has anybody had the chance to compare it to Little Mark II/III?
they dont rate it honestly.. it is not an amp with 250W of output..it contains a 250W power module...
by comparison, the TC RH450 has a 450W module, and was measured at 133W into 8 ohm.. ( Link Removed ) so you can extrapolate from that.. suggesting about 75W into 8 ohm.
Note that amps on the TC website carry a huge disclaimer of fuddle-de-gook explaining the decision of TC to spec their amps different to everyone else...
by comparison, the TC RH450 has a 450W module, and was measured at 133W into 8 ohm.. ( Link Removed ) so you can extrapolate from that.. suggesting about 75W into 8 ohm.
Note that amps on the TC website carry a huge disclaimer of fuddle-de-gook explaining the decision of TC to spec their amps different to everyone else...
That link is for the rh 450 not the bg 250.
Making a statement that it only produces 75 watts is wildly presumptuous.
It's like me saying that Ampeg svt cl has reliability problems because the pro 7 and pf series does, when is fact the cl doesn't have widespread problems at all.
Just because one line in a company may have one trait it doesn't mean they all do
I suggest you learn to read a post correctly before flaming a poster..
In direct contradiction to your accusation, I made no statement that it did only produce 75W into 8 ohm, I simply stated that if you (reasonably) extrapolated the correlation of power module rating to measured output rating from within the TC amp range, it would suggest an output of 75W is indicated for the BH250.
You are welcome to drink the TC power rating Koolaid, but i fail to see how misdirection and misleading specs actually help the consumer....
In direct contradiction to your accusation, I made no statement that it did only produce 75W into 8 ohm, I simply stated that if you (reasonably) extrapolated the correlation of power module rating to measured output rating from within the TC amp range, it would suggest an output of 75W is indicated for the BH250.
You are welcome to drink the TC power rating Koolaid, but i fail to see how misdirection and misleading specs actually help the consumer....
Just pointing out that you have no proof and you are merely guessing, basing your info from a different line of amps. The RH series.
Who's flaming?
TC Electronic representative confuted supposed 75W rating on basschat: Invalid Link Removed Apparently, they put a honest 250W module in it.
That said, can anybody help me? How does BH250 compare to Little Mark II/III in terms of output?
That said, can anybody help me? How does BH250 compare to Little Mark II/III in terms of output?
TC can simply avoid any and all controversy by doing what every other manufacturer does... be honest and put an output specification on the amp.
Stating that an amp includes a 250W module does not in itself make any statement as to the performance of the amp... the rating of the module may be referenced to an undesirable distortion level, or performance very close to SOA, hence requiring a de-rating, or de-rating may occur for several other reasons, including safety overhead (class D do NOT do well past their limit), headroom, reliability or temperature reasons.
Stating that an amp includes a 250W module does not in itself make any statement as to the performance of the amp... the rating of the module may be referenced to an undesirable distortion level, or performance very close to SOA, hence requiring a de-rating, or de-rating may occur for several other reasons, including safety overhead (class D do NOT do well past their limit), headroom, reliability or temperature reasons.
I took my new BH250 to rehearsal today for the first time, I just wanna say I'm amazed! It's louder than my last head (shuttle 6.0) and tone is great, DI out is clean, clear and good tone too! Worth every penny!
- Apr 3, 2003
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I just finished up my Quick Look review of the BH250. Unfortunately, we did not run the BH250 through any bench-testing (don't do that for the Quick Looks), so I don't have the kind of data which we generated for the RH450. That being said, this head certainly performs like more than 75 watts, and pretty much what you'd expect from a "250-watt" head. It's not as loud as my LMII, though. Not at all. But you wouldn't' expect it to be, either.
A closer comparison would be the GK MB200, and based upon an informal head to head (nothing being measured, mind you), the GK seems a little louder. They are both in the same ballpark, though, as far as output goes.
TC Electronic BH250 Bass Amp – SAFTEY PRODUCT RECALL
Unfortunately we have to announce that TC Electronic is recalling its BH250 Micro Bass Head.
This is due to a small error in the assembly process of the first run of product that may have caused two nuts inside the affected units to not be tightened correctly. Consequently if the nuts are loosened or detached, this may cause an electrical safety issue. Though there is only a tiny chance of you experiencing this issue, we want to address this issue proactively since safety is of paramount importance to TC Electronic and musicians using our gear also mean the world to us!
Therefore anyone who has purchased a BH250 from July 2012 until 21st January 2013 is encouraged to contact our service team in order to achieve a prompt resolution and to help get you back up and running ASAP. Please do this via our support channel to enable you to have your amplifier inspected, repaired or exchanged for a new one.
Details of the return process varies slightly depending on location, so for more detail on this please visit: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
We are sorry for any inconvenience, but hope that everyone understands that our highest priority is to make sure that no BH250 owners will experience any safety issue with the amp. Only a tiny percentage of users may ever have experienced a problem with the nuts coming loose, but despite this we want to make sure that no one will be let down while on stage.
We also simply feel this is the right thing to do and wish to stress once again that safety is of utmost importance to our users no matter how small the risk may indeed be.
All The Best
Morten Ehlers
Unfortunately we have to announce that TC Electronic is recalling its BH250 Micro Bass Head.
This is due to a small error in the assembly process of the first run of product that may have caused two nuts inside the affected units to not be tightened correctly. Consequently if the nuts are loosened or detached, this may cause an electrical safety issue. Though there is only a tiny chance of you experiencing this issue, we want to address this issue proactively since safety is of paramount importance to TC Electronic and musicians using our gear also mean the world to us!
Therefore anyone who has purchased a BH250 from July 2012 until 21st January 2013 is encouraged to contact our service team in order to achieve a prompt resolution and to help get you back up and running ASAP. Please do this via our support channel to enable you to have your amplifier inspected, repaired or exchanged for a new one.
Details of the return process varies slightly depending on location, so for more detail on this please visit: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
We are sorry for any inconvenience, but hope that everyone understands that our highest priority is to make sure that no BH250 owners will experience any safety issue with the amp. Only a tiny percentage of users may ever have experienced a problem with the nuts coming loose, but despite this we want to make sure that no one will be let down while on stage.
We also simply feel this is the right thing to do and wish to stress once again that safety is of utmost importance to our users no matter how small the risk may indeed be.
All The Best
Morten Ehlers
- Apr 3, 2003
- 35,515
- 19,943
- Disclosures
- Editor-in-Chief, Bass Gear Magazine
