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TC Electronic's expanded BG250 Combo Family

#43
StrangerDanger said:
Yes it does. You just have to use one of the two tone prints.
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I meant a dedicated knob for that isn't there anymore. Are they the same identical program though? I was guessing that the one was on the older model of BG250 was made with hardware like an effect pedal.
It's actually a big question for me. I wonder if the spectra comp on BG500 is identical with tone print version. I mean is it technically possible for tone print quality to be as high as the one on 6000 which is one of top quality TC gear. Or there are some technical limitation. I don't mean to criticize it but I'm very curious because I believe in TCs high technology.
 
#44
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208 backside
Great way to do it
But the Power and speakon out might be too close of fit.
Power switch down low OK in my book since the mute is on top
 
#45
seamonkey said:
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208 backside
Great way to do it
But the Power and speakon out might be too close of fit.
Power switch down low OK in my book since the mute is on top
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Since it IS a BH250, the location of the everything on the back of the head is the same. Everything is workable but a bit less than ideal IMO. It really should have a "release" latch. Sticking my fingers behind it, it feels like it still has feet on it.

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#50
The 208 looks great. Practice with just the 208 and live put it on top of some larger cab, and have the 8s pointing up at you.

I have the BG250 and just love it. I use the tubdrive about 30% of the time, but I actually think I'd rather have 2 tone prints to go between. I never change toneprints mid gig.. at least not mid set. Maybe between sets.

I wish they actually had 2 tone print modules so you could have any 2 effects. I got my BG250 for $250 at a GC sale last christmas. Fantastic deal. I'm pretty sure I'll get a 208 this year and sell my old Peavey head and 115 Black Widow. The BG250 is lighter than EITHER the peavey head or cab. I've just gotten to used to light amps.
 
#51
It's disappointing that the other combos are not expandable. If the 212 and 210 (and even the 115) were expandable these combos would be a real market leader for sure.

There are certain cats around here (and I'll preface this by saying that their opinion is totally valid) that feel that the BH/BG units are basically toys for home, that have limited functionality as versatile gig tool. I'm starting to agree. I think TC might have missed an opportunity to slay that attitude with Gen 2.

Conversely though, one could argue that if they did make expandable combos they would need to up the wattage to 500w to compensate, and then they would have a product overlap with the BH500.

And this is why TC don't quite manage to get their hook into me. I'm a massive fan of the built in tuner, the toneprint and the portability of the BG/BH range, but as a guy who always runs with loud bands, I simply couldn't take the gamble on a low rated head or an unexpandable combo amp. I'd get buried.

So until TC come out with a higher rated micro head or expandable combo with the new dual toneprint functionality I'll be sticking with my GK.
 
#52
The BG250 (old 115 version) is just insanely loud IMHO. I can't imagine ever needing more volume. I've done several gigs without PA support (one even outdoors) and it was plenty - for me. Fairly loud cover band, but guitarist is reasonable.
That said - I have 2 Genz Benz Focus 115 cabs and several different more powerful heads, so I have louder setups if I need them. I can see the concern if it was your only amp.
 
#53
tbirdsp said:
They probably just left the feet on it to space it out for cooling and used longer screws/bolts from inside the cab to the threaded feet holes :rollno:
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I spent a little more time feeling around, tugging and prodding.

I was wrong. The feet aren't there. There's a rectangular piece (hard plastic?) that runs the length of each side. But I'd imagine the threaded foot holes are used for mounting.

The fan and vents are on the sides of the "head." The ventilation space is there on the sides.
 
#54
IPYF said:
It's disappointing that the other combos are not expandable. If the 212 and 210 (and even the 115) were expandable these combos would be a real market leader for sure.

There are certain cats around here (and I'll preface this by saying that their opinion is totally valid) that feel that the BH/BG units are basically toys for home, that have limited functionality as versatile gig tool. I'm starting to agree. I think TC might have missed an opportunity to slay that attitude with Gen 2.

Conversely though, one could argue that if they did make expandable combos they would need to up the wattage to 500w to compensate, and then they would have a product overlap with the BH500.

And this is why TC don't quite manage to get their hook into me. I'm a massive fan of the built in tuner, the toneprint and the portability of the BG/BH range, but as a guy who always runs with loud bands, I simply couldn't take the gamble on a low rated head or an unexpandable combo amp. I'd get buried.

So until TC come out with a higher rated micro head or expandable combo with the new dual toneprint functionality I'll be sticking with my GK.
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We all view marketing and design decisions from our own perspective and set of needs and wants (what else do we have, right?).

I'd be curious to know how many people actually expand on combos. My gut says that, while it is important to some, it's probably a fairly insignificant percentage who do it. As you point out, adding that feature effectively hobbles the amp. If 90 out of 100 buyers will never add or have serious intention of adding a cabinet, that's arguably not a very good move.

Perspective matters. For me, loud generally means having PA support. Where it doesn't, I can't see a combo really being the route to take.

While we can all see areas of improvement that might "hook" us, most products just can't be all things to all people.
 
#55
drpepper said:
While we can all see areas of improvement that might "hook" us, most products just can't be all things to all people.
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I guess it's just wishful thinking.

Honestly, if TC got in on the high wattage Class D micros my wallet would probably scorch a hole clean through my pocket in seconds. A light and handy 500w BH with dual toneprint would devour all. An expandable BG combo with 250w on its own and 500w expanded would be the absolute dog's bollocks.

A dude can dream. Currently they don't have a micro or combo which is loud enough for my needs, so I can't find an excuse to get involved, even though I think their features (toneprint especially) are super cool.
 
#56
IPYF said:
I guess it's just wishful thinking.

Honestly, if TC got in on the high wattage Class D micros my wallet would probably scorch a hole clean through my pocket in seconds. A light and handy 500w BH with dual toneprint would devour all. An expandable BG combo with 250w on its own and 500w expanded would be the absolute dog's bollocks.

A dude can dream. Currently they don't have a micro or combo which is loud enough for my needs, so I can't find an excuse to get involved, even though I think their features (toneprint especially) are super cool.
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RH 750?
 
#57
The last few times we played I wasn't going through the PA and I was too loud. One outdoor and two indoor, one bar was pretty big too.

We are a cover pop/rock band. We play pretty average volumes I think and the BG250 holds up great. I can't imagine needing 500-750 watts. It just seems
That's what the PA is for. We play and practice with in ears and are getting out practice volume and stage volume low ( when we are all going through the PA)
 
#59
dmusic148 said:
Well, they certainly have done that. Just no toneprint. If they added it to the RH series, they'd be sort of competing with themselves so....
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Admittedly, I'm just being a selfish crank. I'm just lamenting that the toneprint is the bit that I like, and it doesn't come fitted to a powerful enough amp.
 

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