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TC Electronic's expanded BG250 Combo Family

#142
Scottkarch said:
If all the combos had an extra speaker output like some other combos it would really give you a lot if flexibility. Swapping out the 4 ohm speaker for an 8 ohm and then adding a extra cab is just crazy on too many levels. I love my 115 but what you are trying to do might be better suited to a micro head and 2x112 neo cabs. Bring one to small gigs, 2 to bigger ones. Must not be a big niche we are in. Good luck. Please post back what you do. I am still gunning for the 208 for practice and small gigs but keep looking for better options if they are out there.
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Will do. They have all of the new TC's combos in that store, as well as the Aguilar super light (SL) and the DB series cabs. I'll try each one of them to see what suits me better and I'll let u know. Thanks again!
 
#143
drpepper said:
No. You can't use both TonePrints at the same time, so for someone like yourself, who likes to use TubeDrive all the time, it is something of a backward move.

Obviously, you'd want to hear them side by side, in person, but this might give you a little idea.

Same disclaimers as before - I'm not a virtuoso and as soon as I was recording, I couldn't think of what to play. I played the first thing that came to mind that runs from E past the 12th fret on the G string. There is noise from objects in the house vibrating (I probably had them a bit too loud for what I was doing, so it's not a great recording, but shows a difference).

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No Tubedrive/Toneprints on either. EQ'd the same; bass boosted (+2), small mid cut (-1)
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Thanks for doing that brother. I need to get back here more often than I have been these days. I believe you're right. For me the original model is probably just as good as a newer one. I like having the TubeDrive on to some degree all of the time and the only effect I ever use is a compressor so for me a new one would be set up just like an original anyway.

It's hurts me to have to pass up those deals at $299 but I just don't have the need for another now and if I do I'm sure there'll be some around down the road new or used. I'm just glad to see how well received the first one was and that TC expanded the line. I'll have to get over to a GC some day and try that 2x10 on for size.
 
#144
I have a 208 coming this week. I plan on using it for basement practices with a new band I just joined. V drums, acoustic guitars and vocals. My 212/RH450 was so ridiculously overkill it wasn't even funny. So I decided to just do the 208 due to the size. I plan on just using the xlr out to the pa to help fill in the room every so slightly. The super, super bummer is the BH250 is not detachable. I have a couple of 4 ohm 212 cabs, and the 208 head detached would make a nice backup to my rh450. When I get it I might look into pulling that amp off the cabinet and seeing how feasible it is to have a bottom with rubber feet made, or some variation. Do a little customizing and see if I can't make that head slide out for separate use. I have access to some machine shop guys who I bet could help me make a simple way to do that. Fingers crossed.
 
#145
Spent today some time with the 2x8, the 1x15 and the 1x12. My conclusions are: the 2x8 is somewhat loud but thin (obviously). It will hold up to a small or intimate gig. What really sucked about it is the placement of the power and extension cab outputs. It's so awkwardly placed that the extension cable and the power cord had to be forced in! Bad call for their design department. Oh, and it's uber expensive compared to the 1x15 and the 1x12. Speaking of which, the 1x15 is nice, loud enough and light. Doesn't qualify as a mini rig IMO. It's somewhat bulky.

The one I was really interested in was the 1x12. I don't think it'll be loud enough for a big gig without PA support but it sounds more thank OK. And it's the cheapest one. I'd say its the perfect option for rehearsals, home practice and the kind of gig where you don't have too much space in your car or where you have to climb some stairs or where you have to walk your rig from your car to the beach thru an endless hotel, which are usually the usual giggin situations in my case ;).

I think I might be selling my Aguilar TH 350 And I'll get this. or I'll save enough to buy the Aguilar SL 112 cab which costs more than twice the price of the TC 112, problem is that the only one they had was sold yesterday so I didn't had the chance to test the Aguilar th head / sl cab combo against the TC 112. I'll have to think about it on my flight back home :)
 
#146
Relieved my free foot switch today! Quick turnaround and a very solid unit. ImageUploadedByTalkBass1386987066.913305.jpg
 
#148
I've had the 208 for almost a month now. I'm really impressed with the "loudness" as I don't really need much playing in acoustic situations. For outdoor gigs I'm confident hooking up my GK Neo 115 will be plenty.

Comparing it to the BH250, I found that the BG250 is definitely voiced differently (also confirmed by TC support). The highs seem to be a little rolled off on the BG250 and the volume curve as you turn it up less steep compared to the BH250, meaning if you set the volume to the same position on both the BG and BH, the BH will be noticeably louder. However if you turned both all the way up, they will be at the same volume.

Anyway, the BG250 is a keeper at least for now. Love the portability and Spectra-comp at the end of the effects chain.
 
#150
AJ Brown said:
I've had the 208 for almost a month now...

Comparing it to the BH250, I found that the BG250 is definitely voiced differently (also confirmed by TC support).

...if you set the volume to the same position on both the BG and BH, the BH will be noticeably louder.
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You're saying that (confirmed by TC support) the amp on the BG250-208 is not simply a BH250??? I have trouble believing I could be convinced of that...coming from TC Support or anyone else.

It seems to me that your point of comparison must be off. You have a BH250 and a BG250-208, right? If you wanted to compare the amps, you could disconnect the BG250's head from the cab and either connect the BH250 directly to the 208 cab or compare them both on another cabinet.
 
#151
The head is of course labelled as a bg250, so maybe they tweaked the innards. Seems kind of silly, but if they had another silk screen made for the combos, they could have made other changes. Doesn't matter to me, I'm still going to remove the head from my 208. I already figured out how to keep it secured when I put it back in the combo spot. I'm going to use the bg250 with one of my 4 ohm 212 cabs.
 
#153
drpepper said:
You're saying that (confirmed by TC support) the amp on the BG250-208 is not simply a BH250??? I have trouble believing I could be convinced of that...coming from TC Support or anyone else.

It seems to me that your point of comparison must be off. You have a BH250 and a BG250-208, right? If you wanted to compare the amps, you could disconnect the BG250's head from the cab and either connect the BH250 directly to the 208 cab or compare them both on another cabinet.
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Unplugging the BG250 and plugging the BH250 in to the BG250 cab is exactly what I did. The BH250 was noticeably louder and had more high-end with exact settings.

BTW - here is the response from TC:

"The BG250-208 amp has different voicing than the BH250, meaning that it sound different from the BH250.

Regarding the volume it's a different mapping of the reaction on the knob, meaning when you are at max you will have the same volume but with a little less limiter on.
In the middle position it's slightly higher volume on the BH250 but not when you turn it all the up."
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#156
AJ Brown said:
Unplugging the BG250 and plugging the BH250 in to the BG250 cab is exactly what I did. The BH250 was noticeably louder and had more high-end with exact settings.

BTW - here is the response from TC:
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Apologies then.

I don't get it. If they felt it necessary to make changes to the amp, then this makes it even harder to understand why they would still do the jury-rig of just bolting the BH250 case, as is, to the cabinet, leaving the all of the connections where they are. Pretty halfassed imo.
 
#157
drpepper said:
Apologies then.

I don't get it. If they felt it necessary to make changes to the amp, then this makes it even harder to understand why they would still do the jury-rig of just bolting the BH250 case, as is, to the cabinet, leaving the all of the connections where they are. Pretty halfassed imo.
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I agree. I wish they just did the GB Shuttle thing and allowed for the head to be slid out. I'm thinking of putting the BH250 in there and using the BG250 as my backup head.
 
#158
drpepper said:
I don't get it. If they felt it necessary to make changes to the amp, then this makes it even harder to understand why they would still do the jury-rig of just bolting the BH250 case, as is, to the cabinet, leaving the all of the connections where they are.
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I would guess that it's the same physical hardware, just a different firmware revision that changes the controls. After all, the TC amps do all their processing digitally.
 
#160
Wow - there's a lot of divergent opinions here. It sounds like a 112 is the one for me. I want something that's tighter than a 15 and I still want a tweeter. The combo has all the power I need for what I do. If I was playing louder gigs, I'd go with a separate amp and speaker. I still need to play one and (like everyone else) and I reserve the right to change my mind after I do.
 

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