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Teacher got mad at me last week.
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Smooth_bass88
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My music teacher used to get mad at me all the time. He had a profound influence on me as a musician and I am grateful for his presence in my life.
Thanks for posting this recommendation. I be seriously liking me some Duck Dunn.
I ordered this book because you recommended it.
Thank you, sir.
I do all of these things all the time. I read charts, basic notation, know the number system, decent ear, ect......A suggestion, if you don't mind: then why try to remember it?
There are several ways to document a song. Doesn't have to be notation. I use intervals, a bonus is that I can play in any key. Perhaps the simplest is to get the lyrics, double space them and write out the note with the corresponding word.
Not remembering induces panic in most people. Having it in front of you eliminates that.
Another thing that might help is humming the bass line along with the song. Do this without a bass in your hands. If you can't hum it you don't know the arrangement yet (barring some sort of documentation).
A nice by-product of documenting is that by analyzing the song you'll also likely burn it into memory. Like repeating someone's name when they introduce themselves.
I think in shapes. The intro is root-5 5. The verse is root, up a major third, up a 1/2 step to the 4 then 4 down to the 2 in half steps. The turnaround is 1 to 3 to 6. Twice. Then 1 to 2 to 1 end on the 6.
The bridge starts on the root to the 4 then whole step to a flat 3. Three times then go to the root, down a whole step (flat 7) and then end on the 5. Verse, chorus then modified intro: 1-55, 1-55 1-55-6. Done.
This works regardless of what key you do it in.
If you can visualize this in your head, putting it on the bass should be easy.
I've never had this problem with another song. Its like a weird glitch. I can't explain why the song won't stick.
okcrum
in your chest
That is weird.
How do you get lost with it in front of you? Does the writing blur or move around?
Or is it just overthinking it?
Hi Doc 
Interesting thread!
You missed the coda, because the coda is hidden somewhere "between the lines" and you haven 't yet decoded
the text. Learn your vocabulary and the rest will follow!
Hi Rip Great post!
Or in other words: When you are going to fish unknown waters, read the river before you start to cast.
Tight lines!
1+
And it' s not only about writing everything out. It' s also about playing!
.
Just imagine flipping through 40 or 50 pages to play a song that' s just a 12 bar blues. What a nightmare!
This explains why he gets annoyed.
We all expect more from people we know (family, friends) than we expect from strangers. (IME)
I' m sure you know that! (you' re a dad)
Take it easy! When he gets annoyed, it' s because he cares!
greetings
Wise(b)ass
Interesting thread!
Learning to read music is like learning a foreign language. Your teacher can give you the words and teach you
the grammar. Repeating the vocabulary is something you have to do all by yourself.
the grammar. Repeating the vocabulary is something you have to do all by yourself.
You missed the coda, because the coda is hidden somewhere "between the lines" and you haven 't yet decoded
the text. Learn your vocabulary and the rest will follow!
Hi Rip
Great post! Or in other words: When you are going to fish unknown waters, read the river before you start to cast.
Tight lines!
1+
And it' s not only about writing everything out. It' s also about playing!
.
Just imagine flipping through 40 or 50 pages to play a song that' s just a 12 bar blues. What a nightmare!
This explains why he gets annoyed.
We all expect more from people we know (family, friends) than we expect from strangers. (IME)
I' m sure you know that! (you' re a dad
) Take it easy! When he gets annoyed, it' s because he cares!
greetings
Wise(b)ass
Thanks. I have a long ignore list too, which you are now on.You stretch a mean metaphor too.
I know I'm late to the party, but it's the same with me and my big band conductor. And he can get real nitpicky.
I guess I have a strong impulse to live up to someone else's expectations of me. But thinking back to how much I've learned, it's been worth it.
Reading a dot at a time and thinking about where it is on the neck will easily get you under water.
We don't read books letter by letter... but when you're just starting to read as a child you do slowly look at every letter in a word and either sound it out or think about it. Doing that, you very quickly lose sight (pardon the pun) of the "paragraph" ...
But you eventually get beyond that hump.
But if a teacher has you take it home, it's not really sight reading. It's reading. I remember when I took classical guitar and took stuff home to work on, by the time I was ready to take my weekly "test" I was no longer reading each dot. I was seeing patterns every measure, or every four or five measures which made finding those instructions like codas and DS indicators much easier.
It takes time... You learn what patterns mean, like words, and you begin to see repetition from piece to piece, just like the Bach etudes I had to mercifully learn.
We don't read books letter by letter... but when you're just starting to read as a child you do slowly look at every letter in a word and either sound it out or think about it. Doing that, you very quickly lose sight (pardon the pun) of the "paragraph" ...
But you eventually get beyond that hump.
But if a teacher has you take it home, it's not really sight reading. It's reading. I remember when I took classical guitar and took stuff home to work on, by the time I was ready to take my weekly "test" I was no longer reading each dot. I was seeing patterns every measure, or every four or five measures which made finding those instructions like codas and DS indicators much easier.
It takes time... You learn what patterns mean, like words, and you begin to see repetition from piece to piece, just like the Bach etudes I had to mercifully learn.
Maybe you didn't notice that I was talking to jnuts1. No teacher involved.
Hopefully your teacher is trying to push you.
One of my best teachers was a task master. He made me nervous
and that made me work harder.
I often get a chart to a song I know well then see how the notation fits.
One of my best teachers was a task master. He made me nervous
and that made me work harder.
I often get a chart to a song I know well then see how the notation fits.
Hi Doc
Interesting thread!
***SNIP***
Hi Rip
Or in other words: When you are going to fish unknown waters, read the river before you start to cast.
Tight lines!
1+
And it' s not only about writing everything out. It' s also about playing!
.
Just imagine flipping through 40 or 50 pages to play a song that' s just a 12 bar blues. What a nightmare!
***SNIP***
greetings
Wise(b)ass
LOL Right on @Wisebass. And I'll probably take a sample of the insects in the riffle above the pool with my pocket net too!...just to be sure I really understand what's going on...
its after I take away my notes. I read through a song a time or two and bam done. not this one. I've played it for years too
I was being more general, as Dr.C. said he had take-home work to learn a reading piece.
Do you understand the theory behind the changes in the song?
Sometimes reading music without really grasping the theory behind the changes is like reading a different language with your alphabet. You see the words, can figure out they pronunciation, but you still have no idea what's being said...
Sometimes reading music without really grasping the theory behind the changes is like reading a different language with your alphabet. You see the words, can figure out they pronunciation, but you still have no idea what's being said...
