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Tech 21 bass fly rig

#421
Hello Fender guy, I think I can help with the power issue. Check out Godlyke powerall and the PA9. I think that'll take your problem with the power. As to the fuzz, I know its gated so maybe your just not use to the gate kicking on and off, the sound your hearing is like spluttery at the end and prob at the beginning but louder, thats because of the gate is my guess, They based that sercket off the Fuzz factory one of their 70s pedals with a gate, it did that to.

I hope this helps, i'll be interested to see Tech21's responce. I know the fuzz sounds better when mixed in with other effects so maybe try that or something.

I am just a Tech21 fan so you've got to sort of work with me hear if I can help at all that is. I am looking to pick up the pedal but first on my list is another Tech21 pedal thats not related to this thread.

FenderMIA said:
Hi Tech21 guy,


i have just gotten the rig hours ago. During using, i've encountered some issues:

- When set to Fuzz: Mix=max. Q=min and Range=max, the sustain sounds really strange and it ends abruptly with strange noise.
- When set to Fuzz: same settings above, when you just touch the string, it makes really loud noise

I dunno it's common or my rig is flawed.

And one final question: wanna power it up by a pedal power supply.
Looking at
- T-rex Fuel Tank Jr. but only 120mA per jack, the rig requires 150mA.
- Voodoo Lab iso5: there's a 9-12V, 400mA, would it be too much for the rig?

Or any suggestions?
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#422
James Clark said:
Hello Fender guy, I think I can help with the power issue. Check out Godlyke powerall and the PA9. I think that'll take your problem with the power. As to the fuzz, I know its gated so maybe your just not use to the gate kicking on and off, the sound your hearing is like spluttery at the end and prob at the beginning but louder, thats because of the gate is my guess, They based that sercket off the Fuzz factory one of their 70s pedals with a gate, it did that to.

I hope this helps, i'll be interested to see Tech21's responce. I know the fuzz sounds better when mixed in with other effects so maybe try that or something.

I am just a Tech21 fan so you've got to sort of work with me hear if I can help at all that is. I am looking to pick up the pedal but first on my list is another Tech21 pedal thats not related to this thread.
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Hi James. Really appreciated your completion of the answer to my doubt and suggestions for the power supply. I might probably live the the stock Power supply for i really like to carry just the BFR with me when going to rehearsals or gigs.

i used to use MXR bass fuzz deluxe, with a Phase 90. that's a killer combination:)

Have a nice day:)
 
#423
tech21nyc said:
The Fuzz in the unit is a gated style fuzz. When set the way you have it the Range control acts as a tone control and the gate will trigger in a more abrupt manner. I would suggest turning down the Range.

The unit only draws 100ma. As long as the power supple is the proper polarity and voltage you're good to go.
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Hi Tech21, thank you for the reply.

However, if i lower the Range control, it's getting farther from the tone i need, and also, the sustain gated-ends abruptly (to my ear)
Anyway, i'll live with it, as long as it ain't a defect.

BTW, really love the SansAmp section, compressor and chorus. and need some time to learn and adjust octa section.

Thanks for making all these in such a compact size pedal. Now the rehearsals or gigs are at ease.
 
#424
No problem on the power there. Try changing the tone of the sansamp when using the fuzz, or compressor. I know with Tech21 stuff their nobs are real senseitive and I like it.
FenderMIA said:
Hi Tech21, thank you for the reply.

However, if i lower the Range control, it's getting farther from the tone i need, and also, the sustain gated-ends abruptly (to my ear)
Anyway, i'll live with it, as long as it ain't a defect.

BTW, really love the SansAmp section, compressor and chorus. and need some time to learn and adjust octa section.

Thanks for making all these in such a compact size pedal. Now the rehearsals or gigs are at ease.
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FenderMIA said:
Hi Tech21, thank you for the reply.

However, if i lower the Range control, it's getting farther from the tone i need, and also, the sustain gated-ends abruptly (to my ear)
Anyway, i'll live with it, as long as it ain't a defect.

BTW, really love the SansAmp section, compressor and chorus. and need some time to learn and adjust octa section.

Thanks for making all these in such a compact size pedal. Now the rehearsals or gigs are at ease.
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#425
Jazz Ad said:
I'm a sucker for multis, I like SansAmps and I have money on my account. I should be all over this.
I like the simple and interdependant controls, I know how to find my way through these.
Yet, I worry a bit. I think by now I have checked all the videos available and they constantly sound weak.
What I hear is buzzing bees. Not a solid OD, gnarly fuzz or earth shaking filter.
It sounds like a toy, not like a tool. I'm tempted but wouldn't want to sell it in a month.
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I'll try to address your concerns about this unit, given my few hours of experience with it right now. I think what you're hearing (or not hearing maybe) in the internet videos is due to limitations of the media, not the pedal. The suggested settings in the manual do sound pretty big in person. The moog setting sounds pretty nuts and does seem to capture that character fairly well.

As far as an overdrive is concerned, the sansamp section does it very nicely. I've been using an rbi for a while now, and my conclusion is that if you like that style of drive, you will like the one on the BFR. The character control on the BFR is really effective at shaping the overall sound of the overdrive on that section. That's actually a huge reason I bought this pedal, to have another sansamp at my disposal for drive, and it seems to be exactly what I was looking for. That having been said, I have not had a chance to really open up my amp and hear what it sounds like at volume.

The controls on the octafilter section are finnicky and are going to take some getting used to, as they are dependent very much on each other. Especially so when you've got octave, fuzz, and q on all at once.

I'm happy so far, and I'm confident given enough time that I will find nice tones to work with.
 
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#427
jammadave said:
I just don't know why they stuck filter, octave and fuzz on one footswitch; the point of having a multi is mostly to be able to have lots of options at your feet. Elsewise, now that I know just how small flyrigs are (seriously, until you've seen one in person you may be thinking too large in your head) I think it might be pretty good.
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I kind of agree because I doubt anyone is going to be turning the sans amp or compressor off and those footswitches could have been used to control effects independently But being able to engage the fuzz, octave, and filter with one stomp(no tap dancing) has its advantages as well. Those three sounds can be used in different combinations for some cool synth tones. Easier to hit one footswitch to engage them. A lot of players that get into synthy tones put octave fuzz and filter in a loop of a boss ls-2 type pedal to engage them all in one stomp.
 
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Nephilymbass said:
I kind of agree because I doubt anyone is going to be turning the sans amp or compressor off and those footswitches could have been used to control effects independently But being able to engage the fuzz, octave, and filter with one stomp(no tap dancing) has its advantages as well. Those three sounds can be used in different combinations for some cool synth tones. Easier to hit one footswitch to engage them. A lot of players that get into synthy tones put octave fuzz and filter in a loop of a boss ls-2 type pedal to engage them all in one stomp.
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I do! I stomp on the compressor and the sansamp during a show. I will turn the comp on, sansamp off during ballads. And for rock songs ill switch on the sansamp, and turn off the comp to allow the sansamp to capture more dynamics of my playing.

So please please don't take them away.
 
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#430
I'm interested in the BFR but I don't have a pedal board, so no power supply at my feet.
I don't want to hijack this tread but is there an XLR with "builtin" DC cable/snake? I don't want to have a power supply with power extension in front of me to power the preamp and an XLR cable running to our mixer (where there's AC power available). You can reply in this tread: XLR and DC power in one cable
 
#431
Ordered mine a month ago at Sweetwater, still waiting.........Now I see Tech 21 come out with a new BDDI which is my prefered pedal to the VT. It's so hard not changing my order at this point. Especially since I already own a chorus, compressor and tuner. I just want something smaller for quick ampless gigs. Quick, somebody talk me down off the ledge.
 
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#432
cableguy said:
Ordered mine a month ago at Sweetwater, still waiting.........Now I see Tech 21 come out with a new BDDI which is my prefered pedal to the VT. It's so hard not changing my order at this point. Especially since I already own a chorus, compressor and tuner. I just want something smaller for quick ampless gigs. Quick, somebody talk me down off the ledge.
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And I like it too - I have the VT Deluxe and kinda built my own Fly rig - but that Mid Button on the new BbDi - mmmm
 
#433
Bassmunnky said:
And I like it too - I have the VT Deluxe and kinda built my own Fly rig - but that Mid Button on the new BbDi - mmmm
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I had Putnum add a mid to my current BDDI, but I really like the switchable low and mid frequency. I'm thinking about just building a big board with the BDDI V2 and have a Bass Flyrig down the road when they're more available. I guess I'll give it this week-end to see if the ship.
 
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#434
Nephilymbass said:
I kind of agree because I doubt anyone is going to be turning the sans amp or compressor off and those footswitches could have been used to control effects independently But being able to engage the fuzz, octave, and filter with one stomp(no tap dancing) has its advantages as well. Those three sounds can be used in different combinations for some cool synth tones. Easier to hit one footswitch to engage them. A lot of players that get into synthy tones put octave fuzz and filter in a loop of a boss ls-2 type pedal to engage them all in one stomp.
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I'll tell you the way that I intend to use it, I will be disengaging both the sansamp and the compressor from time to time.

I will use the sansamp for drive and sometimes I don't like the synthetic sound of compression. I'm glad they are not an "always on" thing.

At this point I can't imagine a situation where the octafilter would take precedence over the other two. Comp and sansamp are both much more utilitarian than the octafilter section.
 
#435
DonaldR said:
I'm interested in the BFR but I don't have a pedal board, so no power supply at my feet.
I don't want to hijack this tread but is there an XLR with "builtin" DC cable/snake? I don't want to have a power supply with power extension in front of me to power the preamp and an XLR cable running to our mixer (where there's AC power available). You can reply in this tread: XLR and DC power in one cable
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The pedal cannot be powered with phantom power due to the current draw of the DSP.
 
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#439
I'm not sure what to tell you. That cable seems to be for playing with an iPad etc. Even if you had a combined XLR/DC cable, mixers don't have DC power supplies. Where would the power come from?
 

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